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DJ in NH

09-12-2003 20:13:16




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Looking for input / opinions on the different framing nail guns that are available. I am not a contractor but would like to purchase one for home projects. I checked out the local Home Depot and looked at the Bostitch / Hitachi and Porter Cable brands. Some of these took clipped nails and some used the full round headed nails. The Porter Cable was the least expensive and the Hitachi the most expensive. About a $ 90 swing in pricing. Since I will only be buying one I would rather make the right purchase and get the most dependable tool rather then make a desision based on price alone. Thanks for any and all input.

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Chris

09-14-2003 07:04:35




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 Re: Framing nail guns in reply to DJ in NH, 09-12-2003 20:13:16  
I just went thru what you are and bought my first framing nail gun. Talked with the guys at my local lumber yard NOT the big box store. They told me to go to a pawn shop and buy a Hitachi NR81-A.Plastic collated strip nailer. They are the industry standard workhorse AND you can get parts for them WHEN you need them. I paid $100 for mine. Put in a $3.00 oring set and she works great!! For $25 more I could have rebuilt the entire gun! Bit of a learning curve to get the hang of operating it correctly but you will learn quickly.

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JOHN (LA)

09-13-2003 14:31:30




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 Re: Framing nail guns in reply to DJ in NH, 09-12-2003 20:13:16  
1) Does your code allow clip head. If H.D. is selling I would say so. But check to make sure.
2) What size nails. Coil feed is usually for roofing. 2 inch max nail length. Stick framers hold 3 1/2 inch nails.
3) What type nails are avaiable for the gun you get. Type of probuct that holds nail strip together. When I bought mine...I looked at 4 guns and rented 2 before buying. A) PASLOAD cordless. Not worth the extra money for cordless in my mind. Plus you need to buy gas cilinders at extra cost. Great if you want to do projects all over yard such as fence. I just got more air hose.
B) HITACHI. think it has a larger air inlet and plastic nail bonding. Great for bussiness use since nail can get wet and will stay together. More of a industral gun and not worth extra money in my mind for home use.(BOTH OVER $300.00)
C) BOSTITCH. Cheapest money wise of the 4 guns but still a very very good gun. ($200) The reason I ruled out this gun is it uses nails held together with wire. Yes it will jam less often because of this but persons helping me by holding wood said they could feel some thing hit them every time it nailed. Guess it is the wire off the nail being shot out.
D) PORTER CABLE. I own two of these. Finish nailer and stick framer. little more money ($225) and nails are held together with paper. You can not let them get wet as they may come apart. Still for home use a very good gun and and no one yelling something just hit me.
HOPE THIS HELPS
JOHN

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thurlow

09-13-2003 14:04:09




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 Re: Framing nail guns in reply to DJ in NH, 09-12-2003 20:13:16  
Have had a Paslode for 8 or 10 years; chose it because that's what the most of the local contractors use...



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F14

09-13-2003 12:44:49




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 Re: Framing nail guns in reply to DJ in NH, 09-12-2003 20:13:16  
I have a coil-fed Bostich. Coils feed full-head nails, but won't hold as many as a stick-fed. Unless you're doing production framing, that won't be a problem.



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Bus Driver

09-13-2003 04:50:44




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 Re: Framing nail guns in reply to DJ in NH, 09-12-2003 20:13:16  
Some building codes do not accept the clipped head nails for some purposes. They will pull through the material easier than the full head nails. But the clipped head models will hold many more nails in one magazine loading. One bright spot is that nailers now cost less than 30 years ago. I paid more then for a used Duo-Fast than most new ones cost now. My Duo-Fast is now obsolete model, but still works fine and uses the same nails as the newest model.

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Indydirtfarmer

09-13-2003 04:01:00




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 Re: Framing nail guns in reply to DJ in NH, 09-12-2003 20:13:16  
After using "rentals" for years, I bought my own a couple of years back. The biggest difference is not in the guns, but in the nails. (Or the availability of the nails) As they get more and more popular,, nails get easier to find. I wanted to be able to walk into ANY lumber yard, or hardware store, and find what I wanted. That made the decision fairly simple. Bostich. They have three levels of guns. I bought the "contractor" grade. It has been "hammered" since I bought it. (Built 5-1/2 miles of board fence, 3 barns, and now a house)It seems to take abuse in stride. Got a good price. I'm happy with it. Can't go wrong with it.

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jls

09-14-2003 08:54:29




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 Re: Re: Framing nail guns in reply to Indydirtfarmer, 09-13-2003 04:01:00  
Indy is right about avail of nails, locally most contractors use Senco or paslode because whichever lumberyard we're near has at least a box of 31/2". Strip nailers seem to jam less and are not as picky about the condition of nails than coils. just try to feed an off-brand coil or one that has laid under the seat of the truck. Also guns that I can't bump nail drive me crazy.



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