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Bob

09-03-2003 13:16:38




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I work from an office at home, which affords me time to slip out to the shed or wander around the homestead a little bit during the middle of the day when things are slow at work. I just got back from one of those forays, and found my wife out in the back yard pruning bushes, etc. with my very best tin snips. Now granted they probably won't be damaged by such activity, but I'm one of those anal, use the right tool for the job guys, and I asked her what she thought she was doing using my good snips for pruning. "Well, I couldn't find the ones I usually use 'cause they weren't in the drawer". I said, "Third drawer down, with all of the rest of the "cutting" tools is where they should be, and you know that." Her response: "I looked in at least five different drawers and couldn't find them". So I grabbed the tin snips out of her hand, went into the shop, third drawer down, and grabbed two pairs of pruning shears which I then lovingly placed in her dainty hands. I've tried to get her to use the right tools for over a decade, but still find her using a knife for a srewdriver, scraper and pry bar. She also believes that a pliers is as good a hammer as anything, and that a screwdriver is the ideal paint stirrer. Just wondering if any of you have succeeded in "proper tool use" training, or should I just give up?

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krum

09-05-2003 09:19:13




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 Re: Women and Tools in reply to Bob, 09-03-2003 13:16:38  
I have at times seen my wife use tools for what they were not meant for, but so have I. I don't ask her to go into the shop to get the correct tool as it is such a disaster zone that I'm even scared to go in it. I just try to remind myself that you cannot sweat the small stuff and everything is small stuff. krum



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Glenn-WV

09-04-2003 13:00:11




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 Re: Women and Tools in reply to Bob, 09-03-2003 13:16:38  
I agree with a couple of other people who posted - buy her a set of tools that she can call her own. If she decides to user her set of pliers for a hammer or a screwdriver to stir paint, so be it - it's her tool. Problem solved.

(hint - don't buy expensive tools for her toolkit!)



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ShepFL

09-04-2003 12:15:45




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 Re: Women and Tools in reply to Bob, 09-03-2003 13:16:38  
While I beleive in using the right tool for the job not all the time is that tool on my rig. I have used cresent wrench as a hammer, vice grips for wrenches etc.

I do keep my tools organized (feature I learned in the USN) by shadowing my tool boxes. For the rigs they each have one set of basic tools without the shadowing (cheap tools).

For my wife I bought her a small Craftsman roll-away and loaded it with some tools. She is handy and enjoys helping out. Her tools are hers and mine are mine. I have also now been buying my kids their own tools so they are responsible for them. This way they can tinker when they want to and have some personal satisfaction with a job they completed. Plus it saves my tools from showing up missing. If my tools are missing it is my fault.

FWIW

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Dale in Ar

09-04-2003 08:26:22




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 Re: Women and Tools in reply to Bob, 09-03-2003 13:16:38  
Your best deal is to forget the training and be glad your wife doesn't ask you to do it.Complement her on the fine work she does and keep your good tools hide or locked up.Now,we can't complain about women not knowing how to use the proper tool for the job.I've been in Maintenance for a large industry for some time and I have seen new tools badly mauled by so-called"trained" people,who are suppose to know how use the right tool.So just keep getting the right tool for your wife and smile.

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M.R.

09-04-2003 07:16:24




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 Re: Women and Tools in reply to Bob, 09-03-2003 13:16:38  

What a subject & what I would like to add, time is short right now so maybe a smile will help?


>Life Explained > >On the first day God created the cow. God said, "You must go >to the field with the farmer all day long and suffer under the >sun, have calves and give milk to support the farmer. I will >give you a life span of sixty years." > >The cow said, "That's kind of a tough life you want me to live >for sixty years. Let me have twenty and I'll give back the >other forty." And God agreed. > >On the second day God created the dog. God said, "Sit all day >by the door of your house and bark at anyone who comes in or >walks past. I will give you a life span of twenty years." > >The dog said, "That's too long to be barking. Give me ten years >and I'll give you back the other ten." So God agreed. > >On the third day God created the monkey. God said, "Entertain >people, do monkey tricks, make them laugh. I'll give you a >twenty-year life span." > >The monkey said, "How boring, monkey tricks for twenty years? >I don't think so. Dog gave you back ten, so that's what I'll >do too, okay?" And God agreed again. > >On the forth day God created man. God said, "Eat, sleep, play, >have $ex, enjoy. Do nothing, just enjoy, enjoy. I'll give you >twenty years." > >Man said, "What? Only twenty years! No way, man. Tell you what, >I'll take my twenty, and the forty the cow gave back, and the >ten the dog gave back and the ten the monkey gave back, that >makes eighty, okay?" > >"Okay," said God, "You've got a deal." > >So that is why the first twenty years we eat, sleep, play, have >$ex, enjoy, and do nothing; for the next forty years we slave >in the sun to support our family; for the next ten years we >do monkey tricks to entertain the grandchildren; and for the >last ten years we sit on the front porch and bark at everyone. > >Life has now been explained. > > >Q: What four animals does a woman like to have in her house? > >A: A tiger in bed, a mink in her closet, a jaguar in her garage > and a jacka$$ to pay for it all. > > >HUSBAND: Shall we try a different position tonight? > >WIFE: That's a good idea... you stand by the ironing board > while I sit on the sofa and fart. >> >Jack decided to go skiing with his buddy, Bob. They loaded up >Jack's minivan and headed north. After driving for a few hours, >they got caught in a terrible blizzard. They pulled into a >nearby farm and asked the attractive lady who answered the door >if they could spend the night. > >"I realize it's terrible weather out there and I have this huge >house all to myself, but I'm recently widowed," she explained. >"I'm afraid the neighbors will talk if I let you stay in my >house." > >"Don't worry," Jack said. "We'll be happy to sleep in the barn. >And if the weather breaks, we'll be gone at first light." > >The lady agreed, and the two men found their way to the barn >and settled in for the night. Come morning, the weather had >cleared, and they got on their way. They enjoyed a great >weekend of skiing. > >About nine months later, Jack got an unexpected letter from >an attorney. It took him a few minutes to figure it out, but >he finally determined that it was from the attorney of that >attractive widow he had met on the ski weekend. He dropped >in on his friend Bob and asked, "Bob, do you remember that >good-looking widow from the farm we stayed at on our ski >holiday up North?" > >"Yes, I do," said Bob. > >"Did you happen to get up in the middle of the night, go up >to the house and pay her a visit?" > >"Yes," Bob said, a little embarrassed about being found out. >"I have to admit that I did." > >"And did you happen to use my name instead of telling her your >name?" > >Bob's face turned red and he said, "Yeah, sorry, buddy. I'm >afraid I did. Why do you ask?" > >"She just died and left me everything!" > >

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MGM

09-05-2003 03:16:59




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 Re: Re: Women and Tools in reply to M.R., 09-04-2003 07:16:24  
If you continue to make me laugh with good jokes like that I will buy a 12 pack and come visit you. Life at work here has been quite stressful lately and I think the laughing I did this morning reading your jokes will get me through the day smiling, Thanks for your great sense of humor
Mike from S.E. MN



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paul

09-04-2003 06:31:55




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 Re: Women and Tools in reply to Bob, 09-03-2003 13:16:38  
Farming is my work, and during planting or harvest, any tool that gets me running quickly again is the right tool at the time! :) The Cresent (adjustable) wrench makes a slightly better hammer than a pliers, if available.

Orginized drawers of tools???? Mine are too busy to be in the drawers.... ;) A pliers, Cresent, 1/2, 9/16, & 1" wrench, screwdriver, hammer, small 3/8" socket set, pry bar, & lump of wire do most of my combine repairs. If it takes more than that, it's usually the torch.

--->Paul

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Indydirtfarmer

09-04-2003 05:24:30




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 Re: Women and Tools in reply to Bob, 09-03-2003 13:16:38  
You could have one of those wives that made YOU go prune the roses! I got lucky. My wife knows how to use and take care of tools as well as I do. I use her stuff, she doesn't complain. She uses my stuff, no problem. I've been married less than a year, but we have it down pat. NOTHING is more important than both of us being happy. My father and Mother were married for 64 years. They made it all look so easy. I have had good training.

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MGM

09-04-2003 03:38:29




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 Re: Women and Tools in reply to Bob, 09-03-2003 13:16:38  
Sounds like a bunch of good ol boys with good ol wives, you guys that have been married so many years I admire ya. My wife of 10 years is from La Crosse, I have her fencing, hunting deer and bear, cutting wood, Sometimes in the shop when I need help. She just never did these things before we got married. Bob, I've been on your side of the fence before, have had hot tongue and cold shoulder for supper for mouthing off to the wife, Hey, this place aint just tractor advise, I learn alot here. Fun to read all the comments.
Take care and I understand you were just making a comment too. Mike from S.E. MN

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john

09-04-2003 00:51:49




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 Re: Women and Tools in reply to Bob, 09-03-2003 13:16:38  
well I may be the odd man out here are just one of the few willing to admit it!!! after 20 years I can not complain about my wifes use of tools because I think any job can be done with a pair of vise grips and a bigger hammer!! LOL!! I love my wife having her own tools now I can find what I need when I need it. What I can not stand is my kid useing a tool then leaving in the yard where they used it. Or my wife thinking my work shop is her storage shed. Had to build her a storage shed just for her to get my shop back.

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Super 55

09-03-2003 21:56:08




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 Re: Women and Tools in reply to Bob, 09-03-2003 13:16:38  
And what position is the toilet seat in right now?



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Bret

09-07-2003 04:25:19




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 Re: Re: Women and Tools in reply to Super 55, 09-03-2003 21:56:08  
True story- and yes, I'm happily married, 19 years, over $10,000.00 in marrige counseling some years back. My wife says to me, "Why can't you remember to put the toilet seat down?!!" My response- " Why can't you look down before you sit?" We both laughed. I now put the seat down. I also close the lid so she has to reach down and open it. She got what she wanted, more or less.



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arthur

09-03-2003 19:59:58




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 Re: Women and Tools in reply to Bob, 09-03-2003 13:16:38  
after 56 years i dont complain i dont cook very good but like to eat well also like a warm bed yet i do little things and get no complaints back.



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Mac

09-03-2003 18:29:18




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 Re: Women and Tools in reply to Bob, 09-03-2003 13:16:38  
Took 47 years, but my wife knows which and what tool to use for the job. Problem she has a hard time finding the right drawer. But love her for trying anyhow. Heh, heh, I keep "her" pruning shears seperate. Plus I made up a little everyday use tool box for her. She knows where it's at and whats in it. Still calls the little chopping ax a "chop chop".



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Bob

09-03-2003 17:34:59




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 Re: Women and Tools in reply to Bob, 09-03-2003 13:16:38  
Whoa Guys! I'm not upset about her using them, just sharing a little experience I had today and wondering what other wives do with your tools. My wife and I are in it for the long haul, and I love her more than any of the tools or toys scattered around here. I guess it may have sounded like I was really P.O.'d at her, but that's not the case. Just telling a story about a little quirk that makes the marriage all the more interesting.

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paul

09-04-2003 06:43:54




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 Re: Re: Women and Tools in reply to Bob, 09-03-2003 17:34:59  
I took your message that way, altho I figured you would get a response for the way you wrote it! :)

For the other side of the story, my dad would come in the house & use any kitchen knife or sissors for cutting canvas, tire rubber, castrating, etc. Leave them dirty & dull. The household screwdriver & pliers got used & left outside when he couldn't find the dozen he already had out there. Mom had her hands full trying to keep the house 'tools' in the proper place & in condition. Dad never changed. So it's not just the women.

I'm about as messy as 'Pigpen' from Peanuts & very disorginised. My neat-nik wife has put up with me for 4 years now. Bless her. I try, but putting things in their place is just so difficult for me.

--->Paul

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Alvin NE WI

09-03-2003 17:19:59




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 Re: Women and Tools in reply to Bob, 09-03-2003 13:16:38  
Never leave small things like that get your gander up. I know, got over 50 years of married. Learn to give a little and also be able to take a little. after all, maybe one of these days soon you will want to put some small tractor parts in the dish washer!! You won't get'em there by being a ungly spouse.



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bob

09-03-2003 17:37:04




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 Re: Re: Women and Tools in reply to Alvin NE WI, 09-03-2003 17:19:59  
Alvin, how'd you know I was ugly? I got some relatives in Algoma and Sturgeon Bay that must've told you.



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Vern-MI

09-03-2003 17:19:42




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 Re: Women and Tools in reply to Bob, 09-03-2003 13:16:38  
I thought my wife was being unreasonable when she complained about my use of her kitchen scissors to cut gaskets and also went ballistic when she caught me using the sewing scissors to cut shim stock. Fussy, fussy, fussy



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OU812

09-06-2003 19:50:47




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 Re: Re: Women and Tools in reply to Vern-MI, 09-03-2003 17:19:42  
Them sewing scissors are the thing for cutting gasgets



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Taylor Lambert

09-03-2003 21:11:20




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 Re: Re: Women and Tools in reply to Vern-MI, 09-03-2003 17:19:42  
When i started my shop when i was 14 I had a big custome bring me a Hyster forklift manifold and tolme hed give me 100 bucks to fix a few breaks in it. I pre headted it in moms oven then ran out welded it and came in and ran the temp down slowly for the next few hours. I had forgotten about it and mom came home from work Good lord at the Tail chewing.



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Phil Munson

09-03-2003 17:05:18




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 Re: Women and Tools in reply to Bob, 09-03-2003 13:16:38  
Lighten up buckaroo. Make sure Momma has the tools she needs; conveniently available. You wouldn't want discord over pruning to work it's way into the nocturnal quarters, now, would you?



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RayP(MI)

09-03-2003 17:00:58




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 Re: Women and Tools in reply to Bob, 09-03-2003 13:16:38  
And if I could just find them after someone else uses them. Darn frustrating when you're hot on a project to have to go looking for tools that were'nt where you put them last! And yeah, I caught my wife using my small fine daigonal cutters which I keep for tiny electronics work to cut 1/4" hardware cloth! There were three tools in the drawer appropriate for that job!



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Bus Driver

09-03-2003 16:39:02




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 Re: Women and Tools in reply to Bob, 09-03-2003 13:16:38  
We just made it 41 years together. My wife does have her own tools and mostly wants me to leave them alone. But here is my advice- Wiss snips are less expensive than lawyers and alimony. Your wife was not on your case to do the trimming. Love your wife for what she is rather than despising her for what she is not. I say a prayer of thanks for my wife every day.



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Jet9N

09-03-2003 16:26:21




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 Re: Women and Tools in reply to Bob, 09-03-2003 13:16:38  
It's been my contention for years that women and
children break more tools in a lot less time than
craftsmen do in a lifetime. This is simply due to
lack of understanding of leverage and "feel" for
limits.

MHO

Jet



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Bobcatz

09-03-2003 13:43:58




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 Re: Women and Tools in reply to Bob, 09-03-2003 13:16:38  
What I did was get my wife her own set of tools!
Now when I need a good screwdriver I know where to go, She counts them so make sure you return them!



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John Ne.

09-03-2003 13:20:46




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 Re: Women and Tools in reply to Bob, 09-03-2003 13:16:38  
Ten years? ain't gonna change, nope, live with it. john



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Rotten Robert

09-03-2003 17:03:07




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I have A wife and a daughter, I've given them both their own little set of tools and they still are after me to do this or that cause they don't know how. And no matter how much I say (lefty loosey - righty tighty) they cannot turn off a faucet under a sink cause they can't think standing on their head. Last Sat. I pulled out my new 14" Milwakee chop saw and my daughter says; does momma know you got that. They learn em young!!!

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Bob White

09-03-2003 22:20:24




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 Re: Re: Re: Women and Tools in reply to Rotten Robert, 09-03-2003 17:03:07  
What do you say to a woman with two black eyes?

Nothing! She didn't get it right the first two times!



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