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descaling steam cleaner

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R Rahmier

08-27-2003 19:12:12




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Has anybody ever descaled a steam cleaner I have a Karcher cleaner and it is begining to build up pressure and then shut off what kind of acid do you use muretic acid thanks




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Fred OH

08-29-2003 06:04:06




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 Re: descaling steam cleaner in reply to R Rahmier, 08-27-2003 19:12:12  
Just ask any ex navy machinist mate or boiler technician and he will tell you "we use boiler compound". So, find a company using a boiler and you'll probably be close to a barrel of it. I wonder if the navy still uses it in a bucket of water with a wire brush to scrub deck plates. L8R....Fred OH



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kevin

08-28-2003 11:49:33




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 Re: descaling steam cleaner in reply to R Rahmier, 08-27-2003 19:12:12  
Use ice machine cleaner or phosphoric acid. Not as fast as HCl, but much safer. It will also dissolve mild rust.

fwiw
kevin



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Indydirtfarmer

08-28-2003 09:39:08




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 Re: descaling steam cleaner in reply to R Rahmier, 08-27-2003 19:12:12  
Here is what I do; Go to a parts house that sells refridgeration, and HVAC supplies. Get what is called "Nickel-safe" ice machine cleaner. It is less harmfull that muratic acid, and works VERY well. They can also recommend several liquid cleaners for doing heat exchangers, and condenser coils, that will do the same thing. Calgon makes a REALLY GOOD product. I service several ice machines, and an American Vicarb plate type heat exchanger, at my place of employment. The Calgon product is what I've always used.

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Ben E.

08-28-2003 08:11:43




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 Re: descaling steam cleaner in reply to R Rahmier, 08-27-2003 19:12:12  
Try Anderson Chemical Co. 1840 Waterville Rd. Macon Ga. 31206 (478)745-0466. If they have a rep. in your area he can supply the correct chems. and instructions to descale your steam cleaner. If he is worth a darn and close enough to your location he will come to your place and do it for you for the cost of the chems.

Good luck
Ben E.



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Trevor

08-28-2003 05:44:50




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 Re: descaling steam cleaner in reply to R Rahmier, 08-27-2003 19:12:12  
I agree with the guys below in the White Vinegar suggestions.

The only thing that I have found that works better is that CLR stuff they used to advertise on TV. It works faster than vinegar but it isn't as easy to find.

Try the vinegar first.



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Chris-se-ILL

08-28-2003 05:36:33




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 Re: descaling steam cleaner in reply to R Rahmier, 08-27-2003 19:12:12  
I don't have a steam cleaner (would love to have one though), but I would agree with what Ray,IN said. White vinegar might be your best bet. We clean our coffee maker with a 1/2 portion white vinegar and 1/2 portion water. And then rinse/flush the system with plain water, to get the remaining vinegar acid out. We have very hard water and it "limes up" on a regular basis. The acid in the vinegar may be too harsh straight so you might wish to cut it with water. Also a couple gallons of WV may be a lot cheaper than any of the available "commercial" de-liming agents.

Just my opinion. I figure if it will work in a very hot coffee maker, it may work in a steamer. Although the smell is awfully strong from the hot vinegar. Good Luck!

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Ray,IN

08-27-2003 21:27:36




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 Re: descaling steam cleaner in reply to R Rahmier, 08-27-2003 19:12:12  
Most acids do not like heat, they become instable, or lose thier strength, or react with the metal container, create noxious fumes, etc. I suggest using white vinegar(very mild acid) to fill the unit, allow to sit for a while then turn on the heat and agitate and empty. Commerical products are sold to accomplish this also, a visit to your local rent-all store may prove worthwhile. Most businesses are quite helpful this way if approached correctly.

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