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Need some advice, setting up a welding shop

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R Gottshall

08-24-2003 18:49:02




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I think i am going to open a welding shop. I have a lincoln ac 225-s welder and a couple of grinders. The work i am thinking about doing is wrough iron for quick cash and fuel cells for the serious stuff. What am i going to need to have a proper shop ? I am asking because a lot of you guys weld and you know what you are doing. Any suggestions would be great.Thanks




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Fred OH

08-29-2003 07:04:01




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 Re: Need some advice, setting up a welding shop in reply to R Gottshall, 08-24-2003 18:49:02  
One man cannot tell another man what to do...I learned that in Dances with Wolves (grin)...but it is the generally accepted method to work in a weld shop long enough to know what tools and equipment you will need to start out on your own...along with decent skills to operate same. Sometimes just a short period of time in a fabricating shop and some will find out they don't even want to look at a future in that business. I would suggest at least going to some classes at a local community college to at least get the basics. L8R....Fred OH

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BUDD

08-27-2003 17:03:07




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 Re: Need some advice, setting up a welding shop in reply to R Gottshall, 08-24-2003 18:49:02  
If I were you I would NOT make any type of fuel tank at all (big liablity issue), but I would make liquid holding tanks. Think about this real hard!!!!

THANKS BUDD



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R Gottshall

08-27-2003 08:25:19




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 Re: Need some advice, setting up a welding shop in reply to R Gottshall, 08-24-2003 18:49:02  
Thank you for the all the imformation , i will keep you posted. Rick



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Travis

08-27-2003 05:46:07




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 Re: Need some advice, setting up a welding shop in reply to R Gottshall, 08-24-2003 18:49:02  
I can't help you out much, but thought I would just write to commend you on taking the plunge. We need more people like you around that are interested in repairing or fabricating anything. IMHO, we live in a throw-away society and it just irks my butt when you go to the parts store and the person behind the counter thinks they know everything about the part you want when in reality they would have trouble looking at a map and finding the country that part was made in. I took the plunge a few months ago and started my own shop working on autos, tractors, and machinery,(and whatever else I can get my hands on). I'll admit I am still learning, but so far things are going alright. In fact, I am setting up a new building so I don't have to work on tractors outside anymore, I split a 1066 outside last winter--that's not fun.
Anyway, enough of my rambling, just thought I would write and say "good luck".

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Jacques

08-26-2003 17:04:13




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 Re: Need some advice, setting up a welding shop in reply to R Gottshall, 08-24-2003 18:49:02  
Don't forget one of the most useful tools...a great big machinist's vise. If possible, mount it on it's own base so you can get at your work from any side. Most of all, be careful. Your most important tools can't be replaced, like eyes, hearing, fingers, etc. Good luck.



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deadeye

08-26-2003 03:13:22




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 Re: Need some advice, setting up a welding shop in reply to R Gottshall, 08-24-2003 18:49:02  
After all of this other stuff that you need to purchase, to mention a few more things (Chop saw, band saw, iron worker, and plasma cutter). You need to know how to weld... Good Luck !!! ----deadeye



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BFO

08-25-2003 08:26:22




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 Re: Need some advice, setting up a welding shop in reply to R Gottshall, 08-24-2003 18:49:02  
Don't forget insurance and certification.



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Bob

08-25-2003 08:26:13




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 Re: Need some advice, setting up a welding shop in reply to R Gottshall, 08-24-2003 18:49:02  
First, price liability insurance. I'll bet it'll be pricey if there is and fuel tank work!!!



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John

08-25-2003 07:27:38




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 Re: Need some advice, setting up a welding shop in reply to R Gottshall, 08-24-2003 18:49:02  
Go for it. You of course will need lots of stuff to get it going but iron work is a trade that is in need of people. Our Blacksmith shop closed and people are now seeking me out to help them fabricate rough items. I do it for myself so I usually turn them down. Not enough time and I hate criticism.



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Chris

08-25-2003 06:08:03




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 Re: Need some advice, setting up a welding shop in reply to R Gottshall, 08-24-2003 18:49:02  
If you're going to fab custom fuel tanks you will need a mig or better yet a tig welder. Your Lincoln is good for quick farm repairs on mild steel but not much else- the duty cycle is to short for serious fabrication and its settings are to far apart to deal with sheet metal.



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FarmerJohn

08-25-2003 01:58:28




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 Re: Need some advice, setting up a welding shop in reply to R Gottshall, 08-24-2003 18:49:02  
You might rethink what you want to do. I have more equipment in my farm shop for my own use. A REAL welding shop has what it takes to weld everything at anytime. You better figure on spending at least $20,000 to even think about it.



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SHeiserman

08-24-2003 21:06:45




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 Re: Need some advice, setting up a welding shop in reply to R Gottshall, 08-24-2003 18:49:02  
Everything John said and 4 hammers, and 400 pairs of vise grips. And a torch outfit, and.....



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R Gottshall

08-24-2003 20:25:53




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 Re: Need some advice, setting up a welding shop in reply to R Gottshall, 08-24-2003 18:49:02  
Thanks for the imfo John this gives me something to look into. I did make a mistake. I am going to make custom fuel tanks , not fuel cells. Thanks again.
Rick



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markct

08-25-2003 09:17:21




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 Re: Re: Need some advice, setting up a welding sho in reply to R Gottshall, 08-24-2003 20:25:53  
not with that stick welder ya arnt, to make a sheetmetal thing like a gas tank ya need atleast a mig welder, but better would be a tig welder. also how are ya gona cut and form the metal to make these tanks, ya need a sheer, brake,nibler, bandsaw, all sortsa stuff,a welding shop needs alot more than a welder and a few grinders. and also on the fuel tanks you would be amazed how easy it is to end up with a small pinhole leak in your welds

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John in MA

08-24-2003 18:58:20




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 Re: Need some advice, setting up a welding shop in reply to R Gottshall, 08-24-2003 18:49:02  
A real welding shop nowadays needs to be pretty comprehensive. AC/DC stick, MIG, TIG, lots of setup hardware and jigs, grinders (bench, angle, die), stationary belt sanders, bandsaw, cold saw, metal stock on hand, fume extractors, sandblaster, needle scalers, etc. You'd also want a gas-powered rig in a service truck to make road calls. Better money in that.



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Taylor Lambert

08-25-2003 12:11:37




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 Re: Re: Need some advice, setting up a welding sho in reply to John in MA, 08-24-2003 18:58:20  
A big big bottle of nerve pills Lol. I do welding for te public in slow times and often i do alot of the odd ball stuff no one else wants. Id at least get a good 220 60percent duty cylce Mig. I started out when i was 14 with a small wooden 19 by 20 shop bought a miller tunerbolt ACDC and a torch. Then got a cheap drill press a 10 inch swing 24 in table Lathe, then a poweered hacksaw, a chop saw, built a samll metal brake. and a tubing bender. then the shop was full so dad built a 40 by 50 with 19 foot sides and Ive now got 2 torch sets, my original welder a 110 wire welder, a 220 mig, 2 3phase machines, a tubing bender 3 drill presses, the 10 by 24 lathe and a 27 inch swing by 8 foot lathe, a shaper/metl plane, several grinders a porta band, hydraulic power unit, portable welder automated pattern torch. Now im looking a a Radial arm drill with 3 inch capacity, a milling machine, plasma cutter and a few other things. THis is just my hobby shop. Most of my customers aare folks that i can trust and dont carry as much liability as i need. One thing about your welder like my first was on big things i had to wait so long for it to cool before continuing. I lucked up and had 3phse by the shop so recently had it hooked up. Around here a 3 phase welder can be had cheap. I didnt even list my home built benders and such for iron work. in the summer im usually one a dozer or scraper building roads and such. and on the weekends and other off times i draw in extra income from the shop. Ive had to scrounge repair and rebuild tools that i find at auctions scrap yards and such.

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