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HappyKansan

08-08-2003 20:55:37

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Does anyone out there use or know much about Mystik lubricants? I just filled the trans of my tractor with some and need to know if it was a good idea. Thanks

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Snake Oil Products

08-13-2003 16:48:07

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Re: Mystik in reply to HappyKansan, 08-08-2003 20:55:37

I hear it is made from real snake oil. Better get some before everyone buys it up.

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Really?

08-14-2003 07:48:42

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Re: Re: Mystik in reply to Snake Oil Products, 08-13-2003 16:48:07

Snake oil huh? I'm there dude.

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Ghostrider

08-11-2003 10:22:36

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Re: Mystik in reply to HappyKansan, 08-08-2003 20:55:37

Well, I have a strange story about mystik oil. I have a 1941 JD "A" with hand start. I usually used 30 weight Farmland oil. I changed the oil and tried 15-50 Mystik. I guess the oil was too slick or something. It all ran down into the pan! I had to spray wd-40 in the petcocks to get enough lubication to spin it over. I switched back to Farmland and don't have a problem. It now sits 6 months and can still be spun over by hand. I have used the grease and I like it. But I prefer the Farmland stuff. Last Time I bought some, they changed the name of it. It's the house brand of the old Farmland Industries. It's what they sold at our local co-op.

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4020dt

08-11-2003 07:18:10

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Re: Mystik in reply to HappyKansan, 08-08-2003 20:55:37

I have used their gear oils , 80W90 , 85W140 , 10W30 diesel oil , Dexron and some of their greases . Farm&Fleet sells Mystic products here in northern Illinois . I don't think there is a bad oil , just use the proper rated oil for the equipmant , good filters and mainly CHANGE it every 100hrs or 3,000 mi I will also add that I think synthetic oils and the other wonder lubrication additives etc are a waste of $$$$$$ . I will also add that I use one oil , 15W40 Diesel grade in everything on the farm , pickup and semi trucks , cars , big and little tractors both gas and diesel . I use 10W30 in some of them in winter .

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Frank M.

08-10-2003 17:57:23

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Re: Mystik in reply to HappyKansan, 08-08-2003 20:55:37

I have sold, and used, Mystik for 25 years. If the oil you used meets specs for your equipment, you'll be fine. Mystik was the trademark of Cato Oil & Grease, which is now owned by Citgo. Let me know which product you purchased, and what type of tractor, and I'll look in our books at the store to see if you got the right oil.
Frank M.

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HappyKansan

08-10-2003 19:40:59

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Re: Re: Mystik in reply to Frank M., 08-10-2003 17:57:23

If memory serves me correct, it was Mystik JT-7....Does this sound right? I put it in the transmission of a Massey-Ferguson 65. Thanks for the help!(It was 80W90)

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Frank M.

08-12-2003 18:30:23

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Re: Re: Re: Mystik in reply to HappyKansan, 08-10-2003 19:40:59

Sorry I couldn't answer yesterday, but that's an easy one. You got the right oil.
Have a good day.
Frank M.

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Neal-WI

08-10-2003 01:54:05

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Re: Mystik in reply to HappyKansan, 08-08-2003 20:55:37

I am 62 years old and can only remember having my oil changed at a facility other than in my garage twice in that time. I run my vehicles until they are ready for the junk yard. I buy what ever NAME brand oil is on sale. We have bought a number of new vehicles and tractors along with used. The only engine problem I have ever had was an oil pump failure (pin fell our causing gears to bind) was on an engine that had 262 thousand miles on it. I change oil on my vehicles in the 3000 mile range and change filter at the same time. I have never had an engine use excessive oil. It is a rare day when I need to add oil in between changes.

I have used Mystik brand grease from time to time and can not say that it has caused any problem. Note, I highly recommend the Lincoln battery powered grease gun, as it will put grease into some zerks where my hand gun would not. When the Lincoln will not put grease into the zerks, I then change the zerk.

Hope this experience is of some help to you.

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Stick with what serves yo

08-09-2003 23:10:51

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Re: Mystik in reply to HappyKansan, 08-08-2003 20:55:37

Vicon mower/conditioner 15 years old, only replaced 2 bearings, in 1700 acres hay total. BP 85-140 all the way. Gee...I guess I will stick with both !!

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Thresherman

08-09-2003 19:04:41

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Re: Mystik in reply to HappyKansan, 08-08-2003 20:55:37

I use mystic in all my cars, trucks and tractors(all old)and use grease and gear lube as well. Never had a problem. Been using it for awhile. Most problems come from lack of oil or grease, or not changing oil more often than a low quality product. Just my opinion.

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HappyKansan

08-09-2003 19:14:55

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Re: Re: Mystik in reply to Thresherman, 08-09-2003 19:04:41

Thanks Thresherman....I was starting to think that I was the only person who has ever used Mystic oil....Wheww....I feel better! :)

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Farmer John

08-09-2003 13:06:22

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Re: Mystik in reply to HappyKansan, 08-08-2003 20:55:37

Mystik is known around here as being cheap and unsuitable and is mainly used by the city slickers to grease their lawn mowers. Use the best lubricants you can find and repairs will be less frequent. For grease, I feel there is none better than Exxon Ronex. It is formulated in such a way that it is suitable for multipurpose as well as high speed wheel bearings. I began using it 10 years ago because of wheel bearing failure on tractors and disc harrows with grease fittings on the hubs. Since I began using Ronex, I have yet to have a wheel bearing fail from using "grease gun grease". Pay now or pay later....

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Frank M.

08-10-2003 18:10:06

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Re: Re: Mystik in reply to Farmer John, 08-09-2003 13:06:22

Funny you should call it city slickers oil. Back in the early 80's I heard a gas station attendant refer to it as " Farmer's oil" I've sold it for 25 years and my customers don't complain. I've used it for the same length of time and I have no complaints.
Frank M.

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Dr.EVIL

08-13-2003 09:47:49

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Re: Re: Re: Mystik in reply to Frank M., 08-10-2003 18:10:06

I used Mystik JT-8 grease for several years after My Dad used it with some success. He used it on the slow speed plain bushings on an IH 2-ME corn picker and I used it in frt wheel bearings on a 4X4 pickup and mower blade spindles on a riding lawn mower. The tapered roller bearings in BOTH turned blue from over-heating from lak of sufficient lubrication. I now use Lubriplate 1201 or 1202 for the last 12-14 yrs. No problems since. For the slow turning plain bearings the thick sticky grease was fine, but it thinned out & migrated away from the precision high speed tapered roller bearings. Just not the right tool for the job I guess.

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Frank M

08-13-2003 17:52:49

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Mystik in reply to Dr.EVIL, 08-13-2003 09:47:49

Should've used the JT-8 Hi-Temp. It'll stay put when the going gets hot.

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Jon H

08-09-2003 06:26:31

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Re: Mystik in reply to HappyKansan, 08-08-2003 20:55:37

I have used the mystik jt6 grease and consider it a premium quality product. As to the trans oil,would need more info. What does your operators manual list as an oil spec for your tractor trans? The oil spec is much more important than brand name. Ues an oil that meets or exceeds the min spec for your tractor.

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Bernie

08-09-2003 05:50:48

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Re: Mystik in reply to HappyKansan, 08-08-2003 20:55:37

I've been using Mystik grease for a year. It is the stickiest, longest-lasting grease I have ever used. I have to keep a can of carb cleaner on hand to clean my hands after I use it. It's next to impossible to wipe it off and there is still grease in the fittings/bearings after my normal interval of machine use.

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Get Ready

08-09-2003 04:17:28

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Re: Mystik in reply to HappyKansan, 08-08-2003 20:55:37

Get ready to spend big bucks. Putting in an oil you know nothing about is what keeps the parts people and the mechanics happy.

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HappyKansan

08-09-2003 18:08:23

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Re: Re: Mystik in reply to Get Ready, 08-09-2003 04:17:28

I usually use Valvoline gear oil but ended up having to go to a farm supply store (only place open after 5 in my area) If price is any indicator, there were several other brands that were much cheaper. The label on the mystic says the oil meets or exceeds all manufacturer requirements, I put the oil in the transmission of a massey 65. Thanks for all of the input....although I kind of feel like burying my head in the sand due to embarrasment LOL..... ..

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Butcher

08-08-2003 22:31:11

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Re: Mystik in reply to HappyKansan, 08-08-2003 20:55:37

Man, I'll bet you opened a big can o worms on this forum with that ??. I have used that brand and the Tractor supply brand and had no problems. But, when it comes to my Harley's I use only Kendall oil. But that is not oem either.

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Richard

08-09-2003 06:16:50

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Re: Re: Mystik in reply to Butcher, 08-08-2003 22:31:11

In the ole Harley it gets OEM Oil..., I prefer Castrol GTX in all my other scooters, mowers, vehicles.

As a mechanic all my life, I've torn down many an engine and could pretty much guess which oil the customer had used. The worst oils in the world, In my opinion are Exxon, Pennzoil, Liberty. I think why Exxon ranks worst might not be the oil, but more less everytime a woman pulls in the station they add whichever oil the attendent feels like putting in therefore it gets mixed pretty bad.

LE, like Kendall makes an excellent oil, however you don't find neither very easy everywhere. My two favorite oils are Castrol GTX and Vavoline Racing oil. Engines always are clean and look good inside. Mixed luck with Mobil 1.

Mystic,an excellent grease! Not sure about their oils.

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Bill R

08-09-2003 23:05:02

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Re: Re: Re: Mystik in reply to Richard, 08-09-2003 06:16:50

You've got better mechanic credentials than I, but I also use Castrol GTX in the bikes (old Brittish bikes). It seems to do well under extreme conditions, like air-cooled engines.

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KEG

08-10-2003 08:36:53

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Mystik in reply to Bill R, 08-09-2003 23:05:02

Sorry if I'm taking this a bit off-topic, but, Butcher, I want to build a vintage style chopper out of an old Triumph 650. Any thoughts on where to find a motor and what magazines are out there that deal with choppers but not Harleys (seems no one is building the old British based choppers).

Thanks, and I appreciate everyone's patience with my digression.

KEG

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well----

08-09-2003 07:37:20

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Re: Re: Re: Mystik in reply to Richard, 08-09-2003 06:16:50

i would have to say that exxon is one of the best oils around. we run nothing but xd3 in our diesels. 30w and 15-40. have a friend with a d6 cat. had it turned up when new to horse of the d7. runs xd3 15-40. course it just has 33,000 hrs on it. not enough time to tell if it is going to work or not. he has rebuilt it at 25,000 hrs. lot of oil problems is because it was changed when it should be.

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Well, I NEVER

08-11-2003 00:16:33

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Mystik in reply to well---- , 08-09-2003 07:37:20

changed oil in my new '65 Travelall C1000 after the first 900 miles. It was totaled in an accident 13 years later at 80,000 miles, and the oil was still like new... thanks to the toilet paper oil filter. That's when oil was 35� a quart and gas was 35� a gallon. And I used recycled oil most of the time.

Slowpoke

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