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putting up tin cieling in shop

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Andy

07-22-2003 16:20:17




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I am putting a cieling in my pole shed/shop. The rafters are 8' on center. I would like to keep it simple and ecomical. I was told the corregated tin roofing used on houses can span 8' with 12" of blown insulation, light fixtures, and no purlins are required. Has anyone done this? Did it sag over time? thanks, Andy




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Dan in Ore

07-26-2003 09:00:36




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 Re: putting up tin cieling in shop in reply to Andy, 07-22-2003 16:20:17  
When my shop went up several years ago, I juat had tin on it. The noise, cold, heat and leaks were just too much. 3 years ago, I took all of the tin off and put down 1/2" plywood with 30 pound felt and put the tin back over it. I also enclosed the ceiling and insulated. It sure is a lot nicer and no leaks. Also gives me some storage on the ceiling floor. BTW my trusses are on 24" centers. I will never regret the expense on this project, as it makes my shoip a year-round place to work in comfort.

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Farmer/Paul

07-24-2003 03:23:36




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 Re: putting up tin cieling in shop in reply to Andy, 07-22-2003 16:20:17  
I have to agree with farmer John, I have 4 foot centres on my rafters after 8 years no problems. There is No sagging.



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kjm

07-23-2003 18:49:30




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 Re: putting up tin cieling in shop in reply to Andy, 07-22-2003 16:20:17  
Andy, don`t worry about noise I know of three auto shops here with steel lined walls and ceilings, noise has not been a problem.(All three shops were built after a shop in town burnt to the ground from welding inside a pole barn shop.



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Alvin NE WI

07-23-2003 17:10:26




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 Re: putting up tin cieling in shop in reply to Andy, 07-22-2003 16:20:17  
You could nail 2X4's going crossways and use them for the nailers and blow the stuff in then. Did that in my barn and put insulation on top than. No sag now after 25 years.



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Jerry A.

07-23-2003 11:40:04




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 Re: putting up tin cieling in shop in reply to Andy, 07-22-2003 16:20:17  
I've got a steel ceiling in my shop. Trusses on 8' centers with 12" of blown in insulation. No problems after 3.5 years. The sound problem is not an issue, in my opinion. I've got OSB on the walls (36' x 64'shop, with no interior walls), which may help dampen the sound.

It couldn't hurt to add some bracing between the trusses if you think 8' wouldn't hold well.



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Mattlt

07-23-2003 11:38:18




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 Re: putting up tin cieling in shop in reply to Andy, 07-22-2003 16:20:17  
I'd have to agree that 8' is too wide of a span.

To make this project look really nice, be sure to start putting up the tin in the BACK of your shop, and work toward the door. That way, when you walk in and look at the ceiling, you won't see any seams. Same goes for the sidewalls.

Look around at your neighbor's shops, commercial shops, etc. You'll see that it's done this way. Then, look from the back toward the door, and you'll see the seams.

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Farmer John

07-23-2003 11:32:38




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 Re: putting up tin cieling in shop in reply to Andy, 07-22-2003 16:20:17  
Andy
I have the newer metal roofing material for my shop ceiling. I beleive it is called "5 vee". It is the same thing that I covered my roof and sides with and also my house roof. I have trusses on 4' centers and srewed directly to the joist and then blew 8-10" of insulation on it. No sag after 3 years. My neighbor has trusses on 8' center and started doing the same to his shop as I did but when he began to blow the insulation in, the metal began to flex down and wrinkle around the screw heads. Fortunately he stopped in time. He removed the insulation and added a joist in between his trusses to bring it to a 4' on center and then completed the job. His has been up for 2 years with no problems. I feel that 4' center is good enough as long as you use plenty of screws. Putting xtra joist in place may take you a little more time and money but will make a good ceiling. A little investment now will save lots of headaches later. Build it right the first time.....

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Mac

07-22-2003 19:45:08




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 Re: putting up tin cieling in shop in reply to Andy, 07-22-2003 16:20:17  
I say 8' span is really stretching it for anything. specially if you insulate. Metal dont absorb much sound. Even 1/4" osb will sag at the joints on 4'span. Think to do it right you ought to frame ceiling and go with at least 24" spans.



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John Ne.

07-22-2003 17:41:14




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 Re: putting up tin cieling in shop in reply to Andy, 07-22-2003 16:20:17  
I think you'll get sag with an eight foot span. Even without the insulation. Just think what would happen if you get a leak and that insulation should ever get wet. I'd never put up a tin ceiling in a workshop, just for noise factor alone. I think it would reflect too much noise back at me. John in ne.



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