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Would you pawn your tools?

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ErnieD

07-16-2003 17:01:08




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So what would it take for you to pawn your tools? Never been to a pawn shop, prolly never will. I suspect the tools are "hot" and were pawned for drug $$.

If I was unemployed, my tools would be my living.

If I was sick, I would get better and have my tools later, if not mamma will find a home. How many women visit a pawn?




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tlak

07-21-2003 05:44:07




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 Re: Would you pawn your tools? in reply to ErnieD, 07-16-2003 17:01:08  
Knew a guy who let all his Snap On go back when he got an overseas job. Told him most anybody in the shop would have took them. Knew another guy who cruised pawns looking for craftman, carried back to sears for new tool.



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pjw

07-20-2003 06:01:16




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 Re: Would you pawn your tools? in reply to ErnieD, 07-16-2003 17:01:08  
Occasionally I stop by and look and Yes, I would under certain circumstances sell my tools at a pawnshop. Family needs and such or if I was loosing my house. �Never say never� Guess how that saying came along. I did buy a nice jigsaw at one a few years� back. Needed motor and a base but has worked out well. My shop has taken me a long time to build up but there are more important things in life.

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wrenchman

07-17-2003 20:32:28




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 Re: Would you pawn your tools? in reply to ErnieD, 07-16-2003 17:01:08  
nope,not before i'd sold or pawned off everything else first & got really hungry...a handy feller can make a decent living with em...i have & still do...i do buy some used namebrand tools from them though...friend of mine owns a gun & tackle shop & does a small pawn operation on the side...is real careful what he takes in on pawn...has to be,they are checked regularly...



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Rick

07-17-2003 15:23:26




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 Re: Would you pawn your tools? in reply to ErnieD, 07-16-2003 17:01:08  
I have been to pawn shops, There prices are sometimes higher than the retail outlets. Would i pawn my tools ? NO, not a chance!!!! I have work my a#**# off to get what i have. When i go i want to give my boys the tools, and with some knowledge ( one is working with me know )They will never go hungry.
Rick



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Hal/WA

07-16-2003 23:35:48




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 Re: Would you pawn your tools? in reply to ErnieD, 07-16-2003 17:01:08  
I have never pawned anything, but have bought a few things from pawn shops. The idea of pawning something is to put something of greater value up to get a smaller amount of money in a hurry. Then, in theory, you can go back to the pawn shop, pay back the loan plus the pawn fee and get the item you pawned back. But if you cannot pay the loan and pawn fee within the agreed upon time period, your pawned item belongs to the pawn shop and they can sell it.

Yes, lots of things that are pawned are stolen. I have seen many brand new small power tools in their unopened packages in the pawn shops that have probably been shoplifted. And toolboxes that have probably been taken in burglaries or vehicle prowlings. Many areas have pawn shop ordinances that require the pawn shop operator to report in detail every item that is pawned and also to report the identity of the person who pawned the items to the local police. A lot of stolen property gets recovered that way and the pawn shops consider it as part of the price of doing business.

Some pawns are completely legitimate. I talked to one pawn operator who said he had a customer who had pawned and recovered his wedding ring more than 10 times--just needed a little cash. But if the pawn operator has any notion that the item being pawned might be stolen and therefore there would be a chance that police would seize the item, the pawn operator will give cents on the dollar of the true value of the item as a loan. If the customer redeems the pawned item, it costs him less and if they never come back and the item is not seized, the pawn shop can make a good profit on the item when they sell it. Most of the pawn operators I have known were pretty sharp and didn't get stuck with much of a loss very often if items were seized. They really know values of different items.

I guess I would have to be pretty desperate to pawn anything. Thank God I have always had better choices to get money when I really had to have it quick. Pawning something and redeeming it is quite costly (the percentage of interest and fees is ugly). I would wonder if I couldn't come out better having a yard sale if I was just going to sell my tools or other goodies.

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big fred

07-16-2003 20:22:46




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 Re: Would you pawn your tools? in reply to ErnieD, 07-16-2003 17:01:08  
Hot and pawned for drugs? Yup, you been watchin' too many episodes of NYPD Blue. You'll find a pawn shop close to every casino and horse track. There's nothing illegal about gambling, and when you're feelin' hot like you can't lose, you'll pawn your mother's soul for the cash. Why not? You'll pay off the pawnshop with the winnings, right after the next winning hand...



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KX

07-16-2003 20:19:18




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 Re: Would you pawn your tools? in reply to ErnieD, 07-16-2003 17:01:08  
NO, but the methheads that steal them seem to have no trouble doing that. I have bought tools at pawn shops but I always seem to have a thought in the back of my pathetic mind "some poor guy bought this with honest, earned money and some m*therf*cker stole it and pawned it." I hope I am wrong...I am sometimes.



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Ludwig

07-17-2003 11:56:01




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 Re: Re: Would you pawn your tools? in reply to KX, 07-16-2003 20:19:18  
You've been watching too much tv. Anything in a Pawnshop thats been stolen was lifted directly from Wal-Mart. I'm not saying thats better, but Franky Fingers isn't sneaking into anybody's house to steal the prized set of 12pt sockets. Not even the crowsfoot wrenches. Thieves want stuff thats light and easy to get rid of, usually to a fence who then sells it to a pawn shop or out of the trunk of his car. So you see TVs, especially 25" which is about the biggest most people can carry. Stereos are a good one, especially if you don't bother with the speakers, or sometimes just the speakers and no stereo...
CDs and DVDs are fairly valuable, tapes, forget it...

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Trevor

07-21-2003 12:20:52




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 Re: Re: Re: Would you pawn your tools? in reply to Ludwig, 07-17-2003 11:56:01  
Well then why did someone steal my tool box full of tools out of my work truck while at a hotel in Kingston ON. They got my tool box with aprox $1000 in tools, my buddies tool box with approx. $700 in tools and my boss's drill box with a 1/2 in dril 3 drill indexes and numberous other things. They also stole a 1000V megger (I hope they shocked themselves with it), a rope, an extention cord and some rags (why rags???).

A lesson to all, NEVER TRUST A TRUCK CAP FOR SECURITY!

Good part was (as if any of it was good) that I was in Kingston for the company so they replaced everything. But boy is it hard to remember exactly what is in your tool box when everythingis gone. I always kept a list of what tools I had after that.

And YES a friend of mine saw MY Snap-on screw driver with the arc mark on the shank in a PAWN SHOP in Kingston about 2 months later.

Tell me how do you identify hand tools to the Police? There is no serial number.

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DiggerLarry

07-22-2003 10:21:51




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Would you pawn your tools? in reply to Trevor, 07-21-2003 12:20:52  
I stamp all my tools with my initials. When you have three guys on a job and they all have the same brand wrenches, it is much easier to sort them out at the end of the day. It would make identifing them easier if they were stolen too. The letter stamps wear out beating on the hardened tools but it works.



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KX

07-18-2003 09:13:28




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 Re: Re: Re: Would you pawn your tools? in reply to Ludwig, 07-17-2003 11:56:01  
I've watched too much TV? I watch the weather in the morning before work, that is ALL the TV I watch. I do know that theives steal tools because I have friends that have been stolen from recently. Now go back and funnel oil with rope or whatever dopey thing you were doing. Thank you.



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John Ne.

07-16-2003 19:57:49




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 Re: Would you pawn your tools? in reply to ErnieD, 07-16-2003 17:01:08  
Pawn my tools, maybe if I get to the point I won't ever use them again, some day down the road. Actually at pawn shops, you can pawn them, or other items, as collateral for a loan, or sell them, if they're something the pawn shop can resell, they'll tell you right away. For big items, they take a photo, fingerprint you, and you better have good ID, pawnshops don't look anything like the cop shows portray them. Have bought tools, power tools, chain saw, VCR, watches at pawn shops for years, some great bargains there. Plus its a great place to round out my sets of OLD tools. Doesn't upset me at all to have something previously owned. Old tractors, old trucks and this old world has had lots of previous owners.

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JDK

07-16-2003 18:37:28




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 Re: Would you pawn your tools? in reply to ErnieD, 07-16-2003 17:01:08  
Pawn MY tools,NEVER,but do visit pawnshops on occaisional basis.Have found some real bargains.To some people tools are just another possession,worth money when needed.Lots of pawnshop tools are from estates,divorces,and just former owners w/their butt in a crack financially.I have no ethical problem buying pawned brand name hand tools.The pawnbroker came into possession legally,sold legally and HIS is the responsibility of keeping records of who and where he gets his stock.Remember that these items were collateral for a cash "loan" which was unredeemed within the contract period,Most brokers will not"buy"from suspicious characters as they stand to lose not only the money lent,but the collateral also,not to mention their license.

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Mike

07-16-2003 18:28:11




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 Re: Would you pawn your tools? in reply to ErnieD, 07-16-2003 17:01:08  
I shop in Pawn shops,I don't believe EVERYTHING they sell is stolen afterall they have to account for what merchandise they have and I' sure they don't want to get busted for selling stolen stuff.
No I'm not naive enough to believe everthing is on the up and up but.

Sell my stuff, yea about 2 hrs before I'm gone.
My wife(bless her soul)wouldn't have a clue what to do or where to start she says that about every 6 months(the 2 times a year she is in the garage).

Mike"Mr.what needs fixed up here"

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Just wondering???

07-16-2003 18:27:11




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 Re: Would you pawn your tools? in reply to ErnieD, 07-16-2003 17:01:08  
If you needed babies medicine,or heat and lights for children,or food for a old sick parent.Would you sell/or pawn a tool?,Or give the baby a socket and hope it was better in A.M.,or burn wrenches to keep kids warm,and beat the hunger outta granny with a hammer? Since you think the tools in the pawn shop are hot,why not pass this info. to police then they could put a man there and arrest crooks as they arrive,would cut their workload way down. Diffrent people get in diffrent fixes for MANY diffrent reasons,and don't always have anyone to turn to,and do what it takes. Been places... done things.....

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wdTom

07-16-2003 17:53:51




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 Re: Would you pawn your tools? in reply to ErnieD, 07-16-2003 17:01:08  
Only as a last last resort. I would be on milk crates and sleeping on the floor first and cooking on my camp stove. And that goes for the guns too. The tv, stereo, computer, and all house furnishings would be gone first.



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