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JUMBO Sockets 2 5/8 and 3

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Tom H

07-14-2003 11:28:58




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Need some help. Looking for 2 5/8" and 3" 6 point sockets. Need to do work on my bulldozer. Only place so far is McMaster-Carr and they want a small fortune. Any other places???

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Tom




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RB/CT

07-15-2003 19:02:09




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 Re: JUMBO Sockets 2 5/8 and 3 in reply to Tom H, 07-14-2003 11:28:58  
Was at a CUMMINS tool sale recently, its like Homiers, they might be in Tenn., maybe do a search for their web site, they had some giant 6 point socket set, (Chinese) with a couple of giant breaker bars, and it was very reasonable.



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DiggerLarry

07-22-2003 10:28:42




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 Re: Re: JUMBO Sockets 2 5/8 and 3 in reply to RB/CT, 07-15-2003 19:02:09  
For Cummins, try:
Link

They come around about once a year to the comunity center here but, they will ship from their web site.

Larry



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Philip

07-15-2003 10:47:33




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 Re: JUMBO Sockets 2 5/8 and 3 in reply to Tom H, 07-14-2003 11:28:58  
Tom, Wholesale Tool in IN, MI, Mass, NC, OK, FL, TX. IN number is 800-551-2251. www.wttool.com. 1" drive 12 point 2-5/8" p/n 6094-0060 is $25. 1" drive 12 point 3" p/n 6094-0063 is $26. Philip.



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moonlite

07-15-2003 03:12:40




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 Re: JUMBO Sockets 2 5/8 and 3 in reply to Tom H, 07-14-2003 11:28:58  
My neighbor has a workable solution ehich works for him. He borrows.



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Ken C.

07-14-2003 21:30:54




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 Re: JUMBO Sockets 2 5/8 and 3 in reply to Tom H, 07-14-2003 11:28:58  
Tom, try "protoolsdirect.com" look up Armstrong, Wright or Proto brands. Not cheap - but another source.



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Unimog

07-14-2003 19:47:54




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 Re: JUMBO Sockets 2 5/8 and 3 in reply to Tom H, 07-14-2003 11:28:58  
Landmesser Tools in Waterford, MI has them in
various drives from 1" to 2-1/2". Big bucks, but
if your working on a dozer you need good tools
not cheap imported junk. Phone is 248-682-4689.
You might want to look at ebay as well, but those
are special items.



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Unimog

07-14-2003 19:45:10




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 Re: JUMBO Sockets 2 5/8 and 3 in reply to Tom H, 07-14-2003 11:28:58  
Landmesser Tools in Waterford, MI has them in
various drives from 1" to 2-1/2". Big bucks, but
if your working on a dozer you need good tools
not cheap imported junk. Phone is 248-682-4689.



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ajco

07-14-2003 19:11:20




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 Re: JUMBO Sockets 2 5/8 and 3 in reply to Tom H, 07-14-2003 11:28:58  
truck part supply stores have axle bearing nut sockets in various large sizes.



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Bob (WA)

07-14-2003 18:37:52




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 Re: JUMBO Sockets 2 5/8 and 3 in reply to Tom H, 07-14-2003 11:28:58  
Cornwell, Snap-on, MAC & Matco all can get you large wrench sizes and yes they are not cheap. Probably part of the reason a good mechanic can command such a high price for his time . . . .

Proto is a good way to go for quality at an affordable price. A local industrial supply house should carry them.

Harbor Freight and Northern Hydraulics can probably give a low price but low price = low quality and at the level of force required for the larger nuts and bolts a person could get hurt with the sudden failure of a poorly made CHINESE tool.

Good luck getting your nuts off!!

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T_Bone

07-14-2003 17:24:00




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 Re: JUMBO Sockets 2 5/8 and 3 in reply to Tom H, 07-14-2003 11:28:58  
Hi Tom,

Take some 3/8" bar stock and make your own. You can also make your own breaker bar with 1", 1-1/4" square stock and 1" round rod for the handle.

Learn to harden and temper steel and you'll have a set close to factory made. Not that hard to learn.

Large open/box end wrenchs can be made from 3/8" or 1/2" plate.

T_Bone



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Tom

07-14-2003 20:56:23




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 Re: Re: JUMBO Sockets 2 5/8 and 3 in reply to T_Bone, 07-14-2003 17:24:00  
T-Bone,
How in tarnation are you going to make a 3" socket??



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moonlite

07-15-2003 03:23:02




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 Re: Re: Re: JUMBO Sockets 2 5/8 and 3 in reply to Tom, 07-14-2003 20:56:23  
I cut pieces af flat stock to the width of the flats on the nut and weld them together spaced around a nut of the size you need. Then add a handle. These tools are not pretty and are a bit heavy but are only used ocasionally.



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Deas Plant.

07-15-2003 02:13:36




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 Re: Re: Re: JUMBO Sockets 2 5/8 and 3 in reply to Tom, 07-14-2003 20:56:23  
Hi, Tom. I don't know how T_Bone would do it but I have done it and it wasn't difficult either. What's more, it wasn't just a 3" nut. It was a 4" inch nut.

A bit of imagination, some accurate measurements, a gas-axe, an arc welder (electric glue machine), an angle grinder and a couple of hours and there it was. Also, it was made in a workshop 48 miles from the machine it was to be used on. And it fitted.

You can do an awful lot of things with not very much if you put your mind to it.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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T_Bone

07-15-2003 10:35:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: JUMBO Sockets 2 5/8 and 3 in reply to Deas Plant., 07-15-2003 02:13:36  
Hi Tom,

Well it's made very easy just like Deas Plant said.

We'll assume a 1" drive 3" 6-point scoket.

If you don't have a existing 6 point nut make a nut mold out of bar stock. Allow 1/16" side wall clearance to make the socket fit well when finished.

Draw the nut shape on a piece of SM being very accurate. Next layout for the square drive in the center. This is for the 1" drive location upon fab. This will give the true lengths of each piece needed.

Cut the bar stock to length and with bar ends cut square as this is where the fillet weld metal will go when fit together with good penetration. Next cut a piece of 1" square stock long enough to be used for a drive mold. Next cut 4 pieces for the drive sides.

After the side pieces are tack welded then place the 1" sq stock mold in the center of the socket sides over the top of the SM layout. This loacates the drive centered to the socket side walls. Without moving anything measure for the cover pieces that fit from the socket walls to the drive walls. You will want to slope these pieces for structural strength just like a regular socket. Tack weld all.

Next tack weld the socket mold and socket to the welding bench then weld. This will help keep the socket square as it's being welded. You will want to add some Mig nozzle anit-spatter spray to the socket and drive molds so weld will not stick to molds.

Finsh grind and your done with the socket.

Next build the breaker bar. Take a 1" round rod, I would say 36" long or longer and weld two flatbars on either side on one end again using the 1"sq drive mold. When done drill and pin the 1"sq drive mold then cut off the mold excess. Finsh grind and your done.

Heat the socket and breaker bar to a straw color then quench in oil (adds hardness) then reheat both to 500* and quench again as this adds temper to the tools.

Stamp your name on them or start over.

If they don't look top quality then you don't want your name on them and then need to modifiy them or start over.

T_Bone

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Chuck - WI

07-16-2003 06:42:01




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: JUMBO Sockets 2 5/8 and 3 in reply to T_Bone, 07-15-2003 10:35:05  
My dad was an old millwright ... used same concept but a lot faster 'for next days fix'

... block of wood ( 2x ) cut slightly over sized for nut .. fit flat plates (with bottoms slightly rounded off)to sides (temp) and tack weld... remove wood and weld.. weld flat plate on top ... plug weld on largest nut (or mulitple nuts) which he had socket or wrench for (sometimes they just used a pipe wrench)... did not look pretty but it worked .... when he pasted away, the guys he worked with commented on still using his 'box of junk tools' long after he retired

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Deas Plant.

07-16-2003 02:09:52




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: JUMBO Sockets 2 5/8 and 3 in reply to T_Bone, 07-15-2003 10:35:05  
Hi, T_Bone. That method is very similar to the way I did it except that I had to take the best measurements I could down inside a 3-sided housing not a lot bigger than the 4" nut inside and then go back to the workshop 48 miles away to make the socket. I also didn't worry about the hardening and tempering as it was not going to become part of my tool kit. I wasn't being paid to make it by the company I was working for either so why bust a gut for them?

A little imagination can solve a lot of problems.
Providing it doesn't cause too much pain, sometimes a bit of thought will also help.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Jerry

07-15-2003 11:41:40




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: JUMBO Sockets 2 5/8 and 3 in reply to T_Bone, 07-15-2003 10:35:05  
T-Bone, I gotta' hand it to you. That's the cleverest idea I 've ever heard of for making a special socket. I'll have file that one away. Thanks



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buickanddeere

07-14-2003 16:55:46




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 Re: JUMBO Sockets 2 5/8 and 3 in reply to Tom H, 07-14-2003 11:28:58  
The 1" torque wrenches required for that size go fairly reasonable on e-bay.



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hay

07-14-2003 13:34:55




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 Re: JUMBO Sockets 2 5/8 and 3 in reply to Tom H, 07-14-2003 11:28:58  
try the snap-on tool man when you see them at garages around your town. they usually have most anything in tools.



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Mac

07-14-2003 13:00:00




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 Re: JUMBO Sockets 2 5/8 and 3 in reply to Tom H, 07-14-2003 11:28:58  
You might look at harbor freight or northern tools. Expensive items for sure.



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steve

08-18-2003 18:56:31




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 Re: Re: JUMBO Sockets 2 5/8 and 3 in reply to Mac, 07-14-2003 13:00:00  
as it turns out we have tons of USA sockets that are closeouts or seconds that are good quality, but cheap. i'm pretty there are some 3" Wright brand 12 pt. sockets remaining for around 25 dollars.
thanks
steve
harryepstein.com



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