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DickTN

07-12-2003 19:52:56




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Got a couple of old Cub Cadet mower decks that appear to be cast steel. Can this be welded and, if so, what is the best process to use (arc, gas or something else?) Thanks for any help. DickTN




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Tim B

07-15-2003 08:22:04




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 Re: Cast Steel in reply to DickTN, 07-12-2003 19:52:56  
Dick,

I am by no means the expert on welding (suprised T Bone hasn't given you the straight story yet, maybe he has posted this info so many times, he didn't have the energy to do it again)but I did run into this once long ago. I did a stupid thing at my welding class (too long to relate) and ended up having to re-weld the wedge of my log splitter, the point of which was cast steel welded to mild steel wings. It was a "project" - the weld kept craking.

First you need to use the right rod (I have this written down at home, will send later if I find it), I believe something that produces less hydrogen gas, that may be the 6010 or 6011 already suggested (T Bone, help). I started with 7018 and that created part of the problem.

Also, for my "project" I had to heat the cast part before welding to keep te weld from cracking when it cooled. This may not be important for welding cast-to-cast, but it is easy enough to do as a precaution if you've got a torch. good luck.

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T_Bone

07-15-2003 12:30:09




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 Re: Re: Cast Steel in reply to Tim B, 07-15-2003 08:22:04  
Hi Tim & Dick,

Well I rely on you guys to fill in when I can't think straight. I'll keep this breif to keep from making mistakes. There's plenty of info in the archives on welding both.

I suspect the reason Tim was having problems is he was dealing with cast iron and not cast steel.

Cast steel welds just like blackiron wihtout problems "if" theres a good joint design and clean. I always like to use a torch on truck/tractor parts to clean off all oil. Oil & welding do not mix and when they do mix a crack will appear 99.9% of the time.

Cast iron on the other hand needs to be preheated and post cooled slowley. A nickle bearing electrodes works well. Light peening of the weld between passes will help with cracking thats caused from shrinkage. To much weld at one time is not a good thing. Short skip welding works well.

More latter!

T_Bone

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SHeiserman

07-14-2003 03:01:10




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 Re: Cast Steel in reply to DickTN, 07-12-2003 19:52:56  
If It were me, I'd arc weld it with 3/32 6010 or 6011, then cover it up with 7018. That's DC+ turned down to about 70 amps. I don't know how bad or thin it is, but that is where I'd start. If you can get it filled in without much trouble, cover it up with 3/32 7018. This is not the only way by any means, but the way I'd do it.



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DickTN

07-14-2003 07:11:20




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 Re: Re: Cast Steel in reply to SHeiserman, 07-14-2003 03:01:10  
Thanks, SH, I'll try your advice. Will post results. DickTN



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