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Cement stuck to frame boards

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gary

07-07-2003 20:58:12




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Hi all,

I setup some 1x4 frames for a cement project. the entire area was framed in, then within the main section, it was subdivided with additional frames.

It's now a day after pouring the cement, I've removed the outer frames and a few of the inner frames, but some of them are stuck. I could apply a lot of pressure to remove them, but on top of that concrete (and butted up against the frames), I put some fairly delicate slate. So, using force would remove the boards, but really damagae the slate, as the edges would lift up.
I did put some non-stick cooking spray on some boards, but ran out of it mid project, so not all boards were pre-greased.

Any suggestions for helping to ease out the remaining stubborn boards?

Thanks!

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Ludwig

07-08-2003 19:35:23




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 Re: Cement stuck to frame boards in reply to gary, 07-07-2003 20:58:12  
Just keep working at them, back and forth a little at a time.
You really needed to buy some release oil, and it needed to be applied liberally. And you needed to get the frame off quickly the next day while keeping the concrete moist.

Actually, that might work. Moisten the whole thing but try and keep the wood particularly moist. You should be able to loosen the wood fibers to the point that it'll pull apart.

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VaTom

07-09-2003 03:35:33




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 Re: Re: Cement stuck to frame boards in reply to Ludwig, 07-08-2003 19:35:23  
As a concrete house builder, I quit using form release agents in favor of used motor oil. Works great for our plywood forms. Advice I was originally given was to thin it down with diesel. Actually is better left undiluted, but the plywood is sticky for a couple of days until it fully soaks in.



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Ludwig

07-10-2003 08:28:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Cement stuck to frame boards in reply to VaTom, 07-09-2003 03:35:33  
Excellent idea. Do you "clean" the oil first or use it straight up?
At the farm I've started useing the rope wick method to clean oil, works slicker'n snot, gives me a nice clean can of oil every couple days. I then use that oil like 3-in-1 oil all over the place.



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VaTom

07-10-2003 10:23:32




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Cement stuck to frame boards in reply to Ludwig, 07-10-2003 08:28:13  
Naw, too lazy. Straight out of the jug. We just dedicate an old paint roller. Found out there's too much crud in there to spray without straining. These form panels (CDX) live outside 24/7/365 and hold up just fine.

I have a couple of vehicles that take 5 gal/oil change so we always have plenty.

I'm also unaware of your "rope wick method". Please?



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T_Bone

07-10-2003 08:42:29




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Cement stuck to frame boards in reply to Ludwig, 07-10-2003 08:28:13  
Hey Ludwig, Explain your rope trick method!

T_Bone



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buck

07-07-2003 21:52:38




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 Re: Cement stuck to frame boards in reply to gary, 07-07-2003 20:58:12  

Saw through the center of each board with a sawsall. This saw blade thickness of cut should relieve enough pressure to remove the boards.



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jm

07-08-2003 07:19:01




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 Re: Re: Cement stuck to frame boards in reply to buck, 07-07-2003 21:52:38  
How about waiting for the moisture in the boards from the cement to dry out. Might work.



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