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Jim K

06-25-2003 17:46:51




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I'm having trouble with with my domestic water and I have an artisian well, It has the 6 inch pipe sticking out of the ground and goes down about two hundred feet. My question is this, how do I disconnect the water line where it comes out of the six inch pipe which is about six feet below grade, it attaches with what I think you call a pitless connector. do I have to dig down to where the water line connects to the six inch pipe or is there another way for me to disconnect it from above ground? also I think that there should be a rope attached to the top of the six inch pipe so that I can pull the whole works up, and the rope isn't there.
My problem is that I'm getting alot of air in my water lines in the house and I think that there might be a check valve down there that I need to change. I have already changed one in the house at the expansion tank,which is also new. Anyone with experience with these things I would really apprieciate your help as I don't have the money to shell out to a well company.
Thanks Jim K

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Jim K

06-26-2003 19:15:19




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 Re: artisian well in reply to Jim K, 06-25-2003 17:46:51  
Thanks for all the responses guys, I'm going to pull the cover off the well and take another peek and I will let Y'all know what I find.
Thanks again
Jim K



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wdTom

06-27-2003 18:10:46




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 Re: Re: artisian well in reply to Jim K, 06-26-2003 19:15:19  
I had my well guy in last December because the motor on the pump was cutting out on the thermal over load. He replaced the motor, not the whole pump, just the motor, as the pump wasn't that old. Anyway, when he put it back in the well there was a problem with the O ring in the pitless adapter. A few days later I noticed a water spraying, dripping sound from the well casing when the pump was running. He had to come back and replace the O ring. If you do the job yourself be careful of the O ring, maybe put a little grease or Crisco on the fitting so it will slide together.

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plumber

06-26-2003 16:26:36




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 Re: artisian well in reply to Jim K, 06-25-2003 17:46:51  
Ron, is right but unless your really strong you won`t be able to pull it all the way by hand. Be very careful because if it gets away from you your screwed! Out here it would only be around 150 to 200 for somebody to pull the pump and check things out. I think it would be worth it.



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LJ-PA

06-26-2003 16:14:12




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 Re: artisian well in reply to Jim K, 06-25-2003 17:46:51  
Rod NH nailed the pitless adtapter setup on the head. You may have a hole in the drop pipe or bad check vavle.
If you have a submersable pump stick with a brass or stainless steel check valve.

If the water level is low, 200' of poly pipe is a good pull by hand. Have some help. 200' on galvanized steel or ridgid PVC pipe, you may need a machine or an expert.
Rope is an option, good if the pumps breaks off. LJ

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Peter (NY)

06-26-2003 06:46:46




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 Re: artisian well in reply to Jim K, 06-25-2003 17:46:51  
Hi Jim,

I believe you should only have a check valve in the well casing if your poly coming out of the well casing is not below freezing. My mother has this setup. There is a check valve near the tank which lets the water backflow into the well keeping the poly empty from the well to the house. This works in conjunction with the valve in the well casing. Are there any leaks near the tank? My mom had one and when I fixed it, I found that I had a dry joint. Not soldered very well but the flux was holding the water back. I couldn't believe it. It held for thirty years and I could pull the joint apart by hand without heating. This is where most of the air was getting into the tank. Hope this helps.

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Rod (NH)

06-25-2003 18:16:45




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 Re: artisian well in reply to Jim K, 06-25-2003 17:46:51  
Hi Jim,

If you have the type of pitless adapter that I am familiar with, it should have a threaded hole (female pipe thread) in the top. Either 3/4 or 1 inch diameter. You take the cover off your well casing and insert a piece of threaded steel pipe (with a tee type handle attached to the top end) into that top thread and you should be able to pull the whole mess up. No digging. Might require quite a pull though. I did mine about 20 years ago and, as I recall, I used a come-a-long attached to a raised tractor bucket to pull everything up a little at a time.

The pitless adapter should be brass with an o-ring seal that is on a taper so you can let everything back down slowly and it will be guided into the correct position. Mine is a two-line jet pump system (not submersible) and the well is about 150 feet deep.

If you wind up replacing the foot valve (check valve) like I had to, I recommend using an all plastic valve. The plastic one I used replaced a brass one and is still working fine after about 20 years.

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