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Cutting holes in railroad rail?

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Tom_NC

06-22-2003 22:41:15




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I have a piece of old railroad rail that I need to put holes in so as to mount it for a bumper/weight on the front of my Mf 135 tractor. How should I go about this? I have an Oxy/Act outfit and a Lincoln AC225 welder. I have a couple of carbon rods that my dad had bought years ago that I believe are for cutting with the welder, but I have never used this method. I have not measured the rail but it is thick. Any and all help will be greatly appreciated.

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ShepFL

06-23-2003 13:13:38




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 Re: Cutting holes in railroad rail? in reply to Tom_NC, 06-22-2003 22:41:15  
I just used a torch to cut my holes. They are not perfectly round but I can insert bolts as needed. I have a 10 ft. section I use for a yard drag much as T-Bone mentioned. I also hook it up behind my disk when disking to level the fields.

I also have another section that I cut up for an anvil. T-Bone thanks for the other tech info about rail, learned something today.



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T_Bone

06-23-2003 12:07:23




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 Re: Cutting holes in railroad rail? in reply to Tom_NC, 06-22-2003 22:41:15  
Hi Tom,

RR iron is just great quality steel that can be worked with any method you choose. 6010, 6011, 6013, 7018 works well and is easy torched.

It's rated for size by the weight per foot, 90lb, 100lb, 120lb rail, etc: and stamped on the web of the rail.

They make a great anvil. The top of used RR iron works well for working round SM fitting and pipe as the corners are rounded over from rail car use. For this use I cut the web out leaving the rail top.

I also made a yard drag with 30lb rail. 10ft square, rail front and back with 1-1/2" pipe between the rails. This levels as it smooths my drive way. I add a 120lb rail on top when I want it to dig 6" down.

My next project is a press made from RR iron.

T_Bone

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Tom_NC

06-25-2003 21:00:00




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 Re: Re: Cutting holes in railroad rail? in reply to T_Bone, 06-23-2003 12:07:23  
Thanks T_Bone. I will check the web and see what weight it is. My 135 has a bracket on the front for the loader and I need a couple of holes in the web to mount the rail with. Guess I will try it with the torch. Are the carbon rods that I have for cutting with the AC welder? It seems like that is what my Dad used them for years ago.



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T_Bone

06-26-2003 01:48:43




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 Re: Re: Re: Cutting holes in railroad rail? in reply to Tom_NC, 06-25-2003 21:00:00  
Hi Tom,

Depends, if there copper clad carbon, then they probably were used for welding, carbon arc process. Very good for SM welding.

They can also be used on air arc for cutting. Basicly a standard rod holder with a air hole. Turn on air, strike arc then watch the spraks fly. Very noisy and messy but they do have there uses.
T_Bone



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E. Borchardt

06-24-2003 10:25:59




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 Re: Re: Cutting holes in railroad rail? in reply to T_Bone, 06-23-2003 12:07:23  
T Bone,
For some reason RR track ( along with crane rail)is designated in lbs per yard not lbs per foot. Why??? I havent a clue.
Earl



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T_Bone

06-24-2003 17:25:59




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 Re: Re: Re: Cutting holes in railroad rail? in reply to E. Borchardt, 06-24-2003 10:25:59  
Hi Earl,

Thanks Earl for the correction. I never gave it much thought as I'm used to dealing with I beams and columns.

Wonder if that has anything to do with surveying units? It would seam to fit in there.

T_Bone



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Dick in Ore..

06-23-2003 17:27:02




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 Re: Re: Cutting holes in railroad rail? in reply to T_Bone, 06-23-2003 12:07:23  
A question T-Bone..
When you made your drag with the railroad irons, what position did you put your rails? Did you weld the 1 1/2 pipe to the bottom of the rail, top, or side.. This sounds like a great idea but I would like to know the position of the rail when you're pulling it..
Always enjoy your posts T-Bone.. You always have great ideas..

Thanks,
Dick



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T_Bone

06-23-2003 18:04:44




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 Re: Re: Re: Cutting holes in railroad rail? in reply to Dick in Ore.., 06-23-2003 17:27:02  
Hi Dick,

The irons are sitting flat just like the would be for rail car use. The pipe is welded to the center of the web. You would also need a diagnoal or "X" braced to keep it square. That X can be lighter weight pipe/flatbar/angle etc.

To heavy of a RR iron will cause it to dig too much and makes it a bear to pull. Rolls about 12" pile of earth front and back. I use mine with my tractor or 4wd. But I have used my 1-ton 2wd van with a heavy foot.

I also use 1/2" cable with cable clamps to attach it to my hitch. This way I can set the drag to draw off center and pull up sage brush and small brush by hitting 1/3 of the sage brush at a time.

This also allows for the drag to be adjusted so it does not leave a trailing pile at the edge. Trial and error set.

Take your torch and melt the cable ends then smooth together with a hammer face. This keeps the wires from poking the truck paint or your hands.

T_Bone

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kjm

06-23-2003 07:57:24




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 Re: Cutting holes in railroad rail? in reply to Tom_NC, 06-22-2003 22:41:15  
Torch



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Chris Burdette

06-23-2003 06:24:06




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 Re: Cutting holes in railroad rail? in reply to Tom_NC, 06-22-2003 22:41:15  
If you live near a Rail yard or know somebody that works on the railroad, Ask them, we used to use a gas powered drill with a template on it that drilled perfect holes most railroaders would do this for ya with no charge, I worked On the railroad for a couple years and drilled lots of holes.



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Jack

06-23-2003 03:28:20




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 Re: Cutting holes in railroad rail? in reply to Tom_NC, 06-22-2003 22:41:15  
You'll probably find this rail is cast steel. The easiest way is probably going to be weld aan angle iron clip or two on it and bolt it through to clip or clips.



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Skinner

06-23-2003 03:27:43




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 Re: Cutting holes in railroad rail? in reply to Tom_NC, 06-22-2003 22:41:15  
We normally weld brackets to it then cut the holes or bolt pattern. Maybe some simple tabs welded to it will work?



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hay

06-23-2003 03:22:25




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 Re: Cutting holes in railroad rail? in reply to Tom_NC, 06-22-2003 22:41:15  
maybe the best way would be to take it to a machine shop and have them punch the holes where you want it. much cleaner that way and no slag.



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