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EamonX1

06-05-2003 12:48:11




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I have a Partner 351. I have the correct hand-file for sharpening. What else do I need? A gauge? A guide? Where can I get these accessories? I have tried sharpening without a guide or a gauge and find I make a mess of it. One side tends to get more filed than the other. Need advice.




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Timbersavage

06-08-2003 21:06:37




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 Re: chainsaw sharpening in reply to EamonX1, 06-05-2003 12:48:11  
the key to learning to sharpen....is to sharpen! It takes practice but in the end if you learn to do it freehand youll be much happier.
I know the new oregon chain [at least the full comp ] has a line stamped into each tooth to show the correct angle, which is 30-35 degrees, also the rakers should be given a few swipes with a flat file about every third shapening or if God forbid you hit a rock!! try to keep the same pressure on both sides so one isnt deeper than the other and just keep practicing.
Good luck and happy cuttin

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Tom_NC

06-06-2003 20:04:52




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 Re: chainsaw sharpening in reply to EamonX1, 06-05-2003 12:48:11  
You can download a PDF from Oregon Chain's site that has a lot of info about chain care.



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mj

06-06-2003 15:39:22




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 Re: chainsaw sharpening in reply to EamonX1, 06-05-2003 12:48:11  
Years ago I was clear-cutting for an old sawyer from Arkansas (R.I.P.) and he took one look at my guide and said "Get rid rid of that thing and learn to do it freehand. You will be able to sharpen your saw in a heartbeat with a month of cutting behind you." He was right, but that month was a long one! :-)



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thurlow

06-06-2003 17:15:15




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 Re: Re: chainsaw sharpening in reply to mj, 06-06-2003 15:39:22  
You're exactly right, mj; if you ever learn to file freehand, there's no way you'll ever use one of the other "devices" mentioned..... ...



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EamonX1

06-06-2003 15:00:50




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 Re: chainsaw sharpening in reply to EamonX1, 06-05-2003 12:48:11  
I want to thank you all for the 'galaxy' of answers. I will study all the material closely. I am really grateful for your help and advice.



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T_Bone

06-06-2003 13:43:18




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 Re: chainsaw sharpening in reply to EamonX1, 06-05-2003 12:48:11  
Hi EamonX1,

I bought a diamond rotary file called Eze-Lap thats works well. Comes with a guide for different chains, and two to the pack, about $10 delivered if I remember correct. Supposed to last 35 chains each. I only sharpen two chains last year so I can't say that they will but looks good after two chains.

I use a old drill motor for the power and a dab of wheel bearing grease on the file guide for the stone.

So for it's worth the $10.

T_Bone

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Paul Janke

06-06-2003 13:29:50




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 Re: chainsaw sharpening in reply to EamonX1, 06-05-2003 12:48:11  
I have been told, but have no firsthand knowledge, that a chain sharpened with a grinder ends up with hardened teeth which can no longer be filed, must stick with grinding. I don't know if it's true or not. Also, if memory doesn't fail me, I think 1/7th of the file is supposed to be above the top of the chain. It seems like they also say the front edge of the tooth should be vertical or just a little farther forward at the top when viewed from the side.

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G Taylor

06-06-2003 07:20:02




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 Re: chainsaw sharpening in reply to EamonX1, 06-05-2003 12:48:11  
While expensive initialy, the professional benchtop jig with the 120v grinder my father has is a bargin. Saved cutting time/increased production,less stress on saws, straight cuts, cooler running chains/bars. Less aggrivation if one hits a stone too, just put a spare chain on and sharpen them all back at the shop that night.



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Tom

06-05-2003 20:16:14




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 Re: chainsaw sharpening in reply to EamonX1, 06-05-2003 12:48:11  
Depends on how much you use the saw. For general to light use, it may be better to have it sharpened. My MF tractor dealer sharpens for $4 per chain, using professional tools. Gives perfect angles, bevels, depth etc, just like having a new chain. I just take in 2 at a time and drop them off, pick up on my next trip to dealer. When using, I touch them up lightly with manual file.



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jason

08-27-2003 06:56:48




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 Re: Re: chainsaw sharpening in reply to Tom, 06-05-2003 20:16:14  
"CAN SOMEONE HELP" I HAVE A CHAINSAW MILL WITH A "5FT" BAR, IS "15" DEGREES THE CORRECT ANGLE FOR CUTTING SLABS. IF NOT,CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHAT IS THE CORRECT ANGLE, "THANK YOU"



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jeff in pa

06-05-2003 19:34:54




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 Re: chainsaw sharpening in reply to EamonX1, 06-05-2003 12:48:11  

i also have a 12/115 volt sharpener that works well.
i mainly use a manual round file that you can buy at the tractor supply that is clipped into a metal brace that has marks on it for your angle and helps keep you horizontal. the guage is for using a flat file to file the rakers in front of the teeth.
make sure to count the strokes on each tooth and each side and keep the same amount.
i am giving general info, there is alot more to it to do it right. but this amount of info has gotten me through the last 25 years of cutting about 20 full cords per year.
i recently got a sharpening lesson from a professional timber cutter that lasted an hour. he told me he flips his bar every other time he sharpens.

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RayP(MI)

06-05-2003 19:26:03




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 Re: chainsaw sharpening in reply to EamonX1, 06-05-2003 12:48:11  
I've done it with a file, and a complicated jig assembly, and yes, it works. Probably get a fairly uniform sharpening, if I work on it. I'm sure the purists will have a field day with what follows: My favorite way to sharpen my saw (also a Partner, by the way,) is to remove chain, and bar, clamp bar in bench vice, with chain on the bar. Then I freehand sharpen the teeth with a Dremmel tool and a small grinding stone, same size as the file I would use to sharpen the chain. I can sharpen in just a few minutes, and the chain seems as good as I can get laboring over it for an hour with a file. There are jigs available which would allow you to guide a Dremmel tool, if you're into jigs.

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jls

06-05-2003 19:44:08




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 Re: Re: chainsaw sharpening in reply to RayP(MI), 06-05-2003 19:26:03  
worked for a tree service for a while and learned all about sharpening chains. showed by boss several times how to free hand with a file, I have ruined SEVERAL chains in the process. little tree saws needed to be kept real sharp and after several touch ups during the day we would clean up the saws at the shop, blow out the dust,clean, lube, and chuck the saw in the bench vise(carefully by the bar) and sharpen the chain. Having it at waist level and solidly held made it much easier to learn to hold the same angle left and right.

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deadeye

06-05-2003 14:58:55




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 Re: chainsaw sharpening in reply to EamonX1, 06-05-2003 12:48:11  
The best sharpner that I have found was an electric one --12 volt. Works great with the gage on it. Comes with 2 or 3 little stones of different sizes. Try Northern Hydrolics or Northern Tool. I think they have them.



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Hayman

06-05-2003 22:58:53




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 Re: Re: chainsaw sharpening in reply to deadeye, 06-05-2003 14:58:55  
Freehand with a good sharp file works good for me.It took some learning like concentrate on keeping the file level at the start and end of the stroke.A flat file is needed to file off the rakers as the teeth get filed back.If the saw grabs too much you probably filed too much off the rakers.Hold a straight edge such as the file on two teeth. The raker should have some clearance between it and the file,maybe 1/16".

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