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Emglo/dewalt air compressors. A few questions

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chris smith

05-31-2003 18:55:41




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Any one know if the dewalt labeled emglos are still as good as they use to be?? Looking to buy a portable compressor for the brad gun and the times i need an impact away from home, or just any time i need air and don't want to fire up the big one.. I have two choices right now. A campbell hausfeld twin stack, oil-free, 6 scfm, or the emglo oil lube, side stack, which has 3.? scfm. Both are four gallon.. The emglo is 10 bucks more than the ch. 269.$$ for the emglo. I figure even though the emglo is lower out put it ought to be better in the long run.. So whats your opinion?? Ohyea, anybody know the duty ratings on the emglo??

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chris smith

06-01-2003 20:31:04




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 Re: Emglo/dewalt air compressors. A few questions in reply to chris smith, 05-31-2003 18:55:41  
Think i have found me the dewalt/emglo i want. I am going to have to listen to every one say your crazy to spend 360 bucks on an air compressor when you already have one, but i proably am.. I feel, why buy lower quality when you could buy somthun better.. And also this compressor should last ten or twenty years depending on use. It is rated commercial use, so when i get out into the real world in a few years i will have a high quality compressor from the start, if the need arises.. Well i have researched the dewalt d55155 air compressor and have seen ony a few cons to it. It has lots of air out put and should handle anything i want.. It is portable, fast pump up and from what i have read is some what quiet.. So look at it at this link and see what you think.. Oh yea decided to get this one cause because i really couldn't find much about the other one i was looking at. It just didn;t seem right, and the cylinder i believe is different. So what you think?? http://www.dewalt.com/us/products/tool_detail.asp?productID=2952
Later guys!!

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chris smith

06-01-2003 05:50:09




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 Re: Emglo/dewalt air compressors. A few questions in reply to chris smith, 05-31-2003 18:55:41  
So, does the 269.$$ sound pretty good for a two horse unit?? Maybe a 2.5 horse. It is rated as 14 amps, where as the bigger one is 15. The pump looks different from the the other model. The other model has a black cylinder, and the one i am looking at is all silver, i don't know what this difference makes, do you?? I am just 18, and people just can't figure out why i want to spend so much for an air compressor, when sears has cheaper ones. I look at it like this, first: buy quality and it will alost never fail you and will cost you less, Second: If i buy my tools now at a young age, i will have them when i make it out into the real world, and won't have to spend alot of money for tools up front..

Thanks guys! Chris

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DaveCA

06-01-2003 20:56:15




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 Re: Re: Emglo/dewalt air compressors. A few questi in reply to chris smith, 06-01-2003 05:50:09  
Chris,
Many tool makers/labelers any more are apparently smoking something funny when they call out outrageous HP and even amp ratings. Unless truly heavy duty for indu$trial u$e, you cannot believe the hype/type. I would try to figure out what makes one weigh more than the other, then if I like the reason would probably buy the one that weighs more.



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chris smith

06-02-2003 04:33:46




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 Re: Re: Re: Emglo/dewalt air compressors. A few qu in reply to DaveCA, 06-01-2003 20:56:15  
On the wieght, i believe the heavier one has a solid cast iron cylinder, whereas the lighter and cheper one doesn't. I would hope the cheaper one would have atleast a castiron liner, bucause all i have read on that model say cast iron cylinder. I hope it isn't dewalt trying to use emglos name to sell lesser than emglo quality compressors.. So the more expensive one is goinf to stretch my budget a little, but i fell it is worth every penny of it..

Thanks guys!!

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Roger

06-02-2003 20:45:34




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Emglo/dewalt air compressors. A fe in reply to chris smith, 06-02-2003 04:33:46  
No. They are the same compressors as Emglo was always selling. I have a bulletin from a few years back describing to Emglo dealers about how their compressors would now be sold under the DeWalt name and how they would not be affected and were still considered warranty depots for the new DeWalt line of machines. The parts are the same, the compressor units are the same. And yes, it has a regular cast-iron cylinder that mounts with a flange and bolts, a real piston with real rings and, gasp, even a wristpin! What will they think of next?

As far as the oilless goes, the cylinder is like a tin can with a flange on one end. It has a slippery coating on the inside and the "piston" has a bronzed wear ring. Expect both to wear out at least once a year if used regularly or in dusty environments. It doesn't matter if you keep the air filter changed regularly on an oilless, since the bottom of the cylinder is exposed to atmosphere, any contaminants that can adhere to the bottom of the cylinder walls will be dragged up and down 1700 to 3600 times a minute. Ideally, the falling piston would act as a wiper seal to clean the cylinder wall, but at these speeds, we all know that's not going to happen. Low maintenance? We just fixed an oilless this week to the tune of $140 for a cylinder, cooling fan and valve plate. Now he is back again because the crankshaft counterweight has vibrated loose from it's press fit on the end of the motor shaft. We always joke that these machines are a piece of crap, but that there's excellent money in fixing them. We have stacks of cylinder/pison kits on the shelves and believe me, they don't gather dust.

They are crap. Every brand.
Crap!

Don't buy an oilless.

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Robert in W. Mi

06-01-2003 18:17:14




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 Re: Re: Emglo/dewalt air compressors. A few questi in reply to chris smith, 06-01-2003 05:50:09  
Chris, When i was young i started right off buying the best tools i could aford. It was one of the smartest things i've ever done!!!

All the Emglo compressors i've had dealings with were excelent!! BUT, i've not seen or used one less than about 8 years old, so i really don't know if the quality is still there. "If" it is, i'd buy the Emglo!! Robert



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Roger

05-31-2003 21:52:12




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 Re: Emglo/dewalt air compressors. A few questions in reply to chris smith, 05-31-2003 18:55:41  
You will more than make up for the $10 by the money you save not swapping out worn pistons and cylinders every year like you will with an oilless. In my experience, oilless compressors also have terrible motors. We have a lot of failures with the starting switches inside the motors throwing springs and sticking on, cooking the start capacitors as a result. As far as I know, the Dewalt compressors are bolt for bolt the same as the Emglo units. I believe they are all actually Italian pumps anyway, either Fini or Fiac. Stanley Bostitch are Fiac.

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