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Broken easy out Ha Ha

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meanmtn

05-26-2003 16:43:50




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Busted a "easy out" in the rear end of my tractor. I don't know why i even bothered to try one, they never work! any suggestions on how to get it out? It snapped deep so i can't get anything on it. THANKS




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Jim B.

05-29-2003 16:01:53




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 Re: broken easy out Ha Ha in reply to meanmtn, 05-26-2003 16:43:50  
I've done it many different ways, One is a carbide rotary file- 60,000 rpm and a light touch with air blowing out the chips.Then after you have a hole all the way through, break it with a punch and blow out chips. Again, a light touch a little at a time. Next go for the bolt the same way. Saves all the threads but takes alot of time. Best part is it's portable. Hope this helps. God Bless.

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Deas Plant.

05-27-2003 01:15:01




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 Re: broken easy out Ha Ha in reply to meanmtn, 05-26-2003 16:43:50  
Hi, Meanmtn. I agree with T_Bone re getting the broken easy out out. Chip it to pieces with a center punch, but be prepared to re-sharpen your center punch once or twice. And be very accurate with it.

You can remove protruding broken studs by welding a heavy flat washer to them and then welding a nut to both washer and top of stud. Allow to cool before trying to turn it out.

If the stud is broken off down the hole and is big enough, you can drop spring washers down the hole, one at a time, and weld them to the broken stud until you get to the surface then treat as for a protruding stud.

I learned this trick from an ex-employer who told me about a welder and fabricator in the local town who used to do it. The first time I had to do it was about 4 years later when a Cat D9G I was operating broke the idler recoil spring retainer bolt and blew the head off the recoil spring housing, breaking 5 out of 8 one-inch Grade 9 bolts in the process. Three of the five were broken up to 3/4 of an inch down the hole. That used up a few 5/8 spring washers but I got ALL of them out. Good thing too. The machine was around 900 to 1,000 miles from the nearest Cat dealer. As it was, we had to fly a Cat mechanic with all his tools, including all the press gear for re-comprssing the springs, in from Perth, 1,600 miles away. (The job was in the far North of Western Australia.)

If the stud hole is too small for the spring washer trick, you may still be able to use a welder to get it out by sliding a length of copper pipe down the hole and building up a bit at time with weld inside the copper pipe. "A bit at a time" is because, if you go for broke, you may melt the copper and finish up welding your broken stud to the threads in the hole. If using a stick welder, this is best done using small electrodes and stopping very frequently to chip your slag and blow it out the hole. Migs weld cleaner but the gas shroud around the welding tip may obscure your view a bit. I have used this method down to 1/2" studs broken off down to about 3/8" to 1/2" below the surface.

Hope this helps.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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Terry

05-27-2003 00:29:19




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 Re: broken easy out Ha Ha in reply to meanmtn, 05-26-2003 16:43:50  
I Had a job where i had to get 6 hardened studs out of a Cummuns head with out taking it of off the engine the first time i spent 8 long hours whith drills chislea and punches - the next time i went to the welding store and rented a plasma cutter and it took me 1-1/2 hour to do 8 studs.
the plasma cutter cost me $60 bucks a day.



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don h

05-26-2003 21:26:30




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 Re: broken easy out Ha Ha in reply to meanmtn, 05-26-2003 16:43:50  
20 + years ago I broke a nerl tool in a valve guide. It was a real rare old car. I took the head to a shop and they used an ark welder type thing and sprayed water and air on it. Ate the nerl out in no time. Cost a fair bit but worth it. Can't remember the name of the process. You should be able to look for this kind of service in a major city. The owner said he could get any thing I broke out. I only had to have him save my but once.

Good luck Don

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Ray,IN

05-26-2003 22:04:30




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 Re: Re: broken easy out Ha Ha in reply to don h, 05-26-2003 21:26:30  
DonH gave good advice. The name of the machine is an Electronic Discharge Machine. It uses hollow metal rods that, like DonH said, use an arc plus water pressure to cool everything and flush out the particles of burned metal. They're very accurate when a trained operator has the proper size rods for the job. I've burned out taps, bolts,eze outs etc., accuratly enough to pick out the bolt/tap thread pieces and reuse the tapped hole. On a diff housing this will be difficult because the housing must be lifted onto the table of the machine.

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Larry806

05-26-2003 19:26:23




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 Re: broken easy out Ha Ha in reply to meanmtn, 05-26-2003 16:43:50  
I've used a center punch to break up the easy out



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T_Bone

05-26-2003 19:53:48




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 Re: Re: broken easy out Ha Ha in reply to Larry806, 05-26-2003 19:26:23  
Hi meanmtn,

I use Larry's method and it works well. It shatters the easy out so it can be taken out in pieces.

T_Bone



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Tractor Dan

05-26-2003 18:30:30




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 Re: broken easy out Ha Ha in reply to meanmtn, 05-26-2003 16:43:50  
i tryto drill with my left handed drill bits first alot of time it will catch and back the bolt right out as far as removing the broken esy out like the other guy said i would use torch an be very carefull and paitien good luck those left handed drill bits are worth there wieght in gold



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Jack in Fla

05-26-2003 18:05:52




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 Re: broken easy out Ha Ha in reply to meanmtn, 05-26-2003 16:43:50  
Meanmtn, you may have to take torch and blow it out,but be careful wear goggles, then get some small picks and pick the Pieces out. take a little time go slow. get u a concrete drill bit and grind off outer edges, and use that, it is carbon steel, and I almost forgot to say, and it works to.

Jack



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Van(WA)

05-26-2003 17:12:34




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 Re: broken easy out Ha Ha in reply to meanmtn, 05-26-2003 16:43:50  
Meanmtm; You got a problem!!, Have done the same thing, I bored mine out with a drill, leave the orginal threads intack, then re-tapped the threads. This is not easy to do, be very careful, also have a good supply of drill bits, as a "easy out" is harder then "H" , a friend of mined was shapring bits as I was doing the drilling! Takes time and a lot of patience. I never use "easy outs" anymore---have fun..

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