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Jim

05-25-2003 18:18:45




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Anybody own and use a portabale sawmill? Any particular brands preferred? I have a 2-3 acre stand of mature (35 year) loblolly pine that looks nice but I would like to find a means to use the wood for exra money. The local lumber traders aren't interested because the stand is too small. Any ideas?




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JohnnyB

05-26-2003 11:18:28




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 Re: Portable Sawmills in reply to Jim, 05-25-2003 18:18:45  
You'd better think this through pretty well, there are a ton of slightly used mills for sale. The work is pretty tough, not impossible, but tough. I Just hired a local man who runs a woodmizer to saw up about 2200 bd. ft. of post oak for me. I could of got it done by the local circle mill for about a hundred dollars less and not wasted 10 hours of my time helping load his mill and stacking lumber. In my opinion they are slower than christmas and go through blades like theres no tomorrow, but that's with hard oak and pine would definitely be easier,next time I won't use a bandmill. You need to work with someone who has a bandmill for at least 2-3 days to get the feel of the work, that'll probably cure your itch to saw.

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Robert in W. Mi.

05-27-2003 06:52:55




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 Re: Re: Portable Sawmills in reply to JohnnyB, 05-26-2003 11:18:28  
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I think you left some things out of your post. How long does it take to "hammer" a circle blade??? Ever see the cost of getting it done?? How about changeing and sharpening teeth?? And what about all that saw dust?? Can't you picture a lot of boards in that saw dust pile??? These are the things you "didn't" see (or mention in your post) with a circle mill.

It's true in some conditions you can dull a lot of bands, but those conditions will dull a circle blade too!!! The speed a band mill, "mills" is dependent on what band mill and operator, so don't lump all band mills as "slow". Remember, all the really "big boys" that saw construction lumber are useing big "band mills".

Keep in mind, no matter how you saw the lumber "some one" has to sticker it!!! You can do it your self, or pay some one else to do it.

For you it may be a better deal to haul your logs (that takes time too, and someone has to go get the lumber!) to a circle mill, but if you are sawing for "grade", the waste of a circle mill alone makes a band mill shine!!

Like i said in my last post, if you want more speed, spend more money!!

Robert

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Jim

05-26-2003 17:34:17




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 Re: Re: Portable Sawmills in reply to JohnnyB, 05-26-2003 11:18:28  
Johnny,

I appreciate your candid reply. Right now I'm reviewing ideas and you've provided some information to consider seriously. No doubt it is hard work; even the newest models with hydraulic assists can't take all the lifting out of the task. Again, thank you.

respectfully,

Jim



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Robert in W. Mi.

05-26-2003 06:59:32




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 Re: Portable Sawmills in reply to Jim, 05-25-2003 18:18:45  
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I also have a Norwood Lumbermate. They are very good sawmills. I've had mine on the farm for about 6 years now, and have built several buildings out of lumber i've sawn off my woodlot.

Nothing wrong with WoodMizer, but they do NOT saw any better or more accurate than a Lumbermate, they are just faster!! They also cost a LOT more, so you have to decide if you want to saw enough that you "need" a faster mill. Norwoods are a manual mill. You do all the log loading and turning manually, the faster mills have hydraulics that do all the log handleing for you. If you want to saw several days a week and try to make a liveing off your wood lot, i think you should be looking at a hydraulic mill. If you want to saw mostly for your own use like i do, then a Norwood Lumbermate is an excelent mill!!

Just open your check book, and dial in the speed you want!! :>)

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Jim

05-26-2003 17:42:47




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 Re: Re: Portable Sawmills in reply to Robert in W. Mi., 05-26-2003 06:59:32  
Robert,

Opening the checkbook is what I'm hoping to minimize unless the outgoing $$ lead to more incoming. I'm considering options; the loblolly is mature, it should have been thinned years ago and although it provides a nice screen I'm hoping it can help finance some projects that will be costly. Anyway, thank you for your recommendation and photo. Nice tractor.

Respectfully,

Jim



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WRW

05-26-2003 05:14:04




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 Re: Portable Sawmills in reply to Jim, 05-25-2003 18:18:45  
Try: >Link
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A couple of alternatives would be to hire a portable sawyer to mill on site (Woodmizer will give you a list of local sawyers) or to hire a trucker to haul your logs to a mill (check with the mill to see what lengths they require).
I have a Norwood manual mill, but would not have purchased it for only 3 acres.
Good luck however you decide to go.

Bill

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TimV

05-25-2003 21:39:52




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 Re: Portable Sawmills in reply to Jim, 05-25-2003 18:18:45  
Jim: I can heartily recommend Wood-Mizer. We have owned an LT-40 for nearly 20 years, and it has been an excellent saw. The newer, larger ones (though of course more expensive) are even better--much more automated, and also faster. Wood-Mizer's service is also top-notch--they won't let a rep near a customer until they know the machines inside and out. My grandfather and uncle picked up the machine at the factory in Indiana, and got three days of training on THEIR saw--everything from adjustments to grade sawing. Properly adjusted, a Wood-Mizer will saw a board the thickness of a dime down the entire length of the bed, and the lumber can easily be used without additional planing. We saved the entire cost of the saw back within two years (not counting our labor, of course) in savings on lumber for various building projects on the farm.

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Jim

05-26-2003 06:01:55




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 Re: Re: Portable Sawmills in reply to TimV, 05-25-2003 21:39:52  
Tim,

Wow, sure you don't work for Wood-Mizer? Yours is a great recommendation. My wife brought home some Wood-Mizer literature from a local, small-farm fair and the products do seem impressive. We have plenty of loblolly around our house, lots of poplar too. The walnut is more plentiful than oak but not enough of either that I would feel comfortable harvesting in more than small amounts (single projects). We do have another site with oak but it is forty miles away. Any sawmill we might purchase would have to be mobile. Anyway, thank you for taking the time to reply; I appreciate your recommendation.

Respectfully,

Jim

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TimV

05-26-2003 06:15:20




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 Re: Re: Re: Portable Sawmills in reply to Jim, 05-26-2003 06:01:55  
Jim: I don't work for Wood-Mizer, but when I see a company doing things right (and so few today do) I don't mind giving them a recommendation. By the way, the "thickness of a dime" example I gave above isn't "sales talk". When my grandfather and uncle picked up our saw (pulled from Indy to northern NY behind a 1976 Dodge 3/4 ton) the technicians giving the training would not let the saw leave they yard unless YOU could do this with YOUR saw--the one you had just bought. Just another example of customer service that's above and beyond the call of duty.

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