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What have you learned when welding?

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drewjunr

05-20-2003 15:55:04




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Hind-sight is 20/20

...shocked when inserting rod, arm was on the tractor, but had sweated through the leathers
...slag rolling 7ft down backhoe boom coming to rest on hydraulic oil soaked dirt at the pivot point, starting small fire
...accidently striking arc on project while getting into a better position, hood up
...cannot strike an arc, clean the spot again... chunk rod, and the next rod works fine

I am wanting to learn from others experiences, things that they don't teach you in the book. Now before turning on the welder I try to make everything is as safe and organized.

I am learning to weld on a Weldcraft 295, lots of practice needed but getting better.

drew

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Bob Tredinnick

05-22-2003 09:03:36




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 Re: What have you learned when welding? in reply to drewjunr, 05-20-2003 15:55:04  
Remember that both welding rod and wire have a shelf life.



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Paul Janke

05-21-2003 19:38:37




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 Re: What have you learned when welding? in reply to drewjunr, 05-20-2003 15:55:04  
I have known for a long time that I don't like the smell of burning flesh, but have learned that I like it a lot less when I know it is my own.



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JJBUTSON

05-22-2003 19:24:59




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 Re: Re: What have you learned when welding? in reply to Paul Janke, 05-21-2003 19:38:37  
I know all to well that smell don't weld with shorts on no matter how small the fix. Those little sparks roll right into your boot and you can't get them off fast enough.



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James

05-23-2003 19:20:09




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 Re: Re: Re: What have you learned when welding? in reply to JJBUTSON, 05-22-2003 19:24:59  
Are you saying you wear boots with your shorts?



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KX

05-21-2003 09:12:50




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 Re: What have you learned when welding? in reply to drewjunr, 05-20-2003 15:55:04  
When welding over your head, wear ear plugs. I bought a bumper pull trailer with a broken tongue once. While I was under it welding, a piece of hot slag went into my ear and I mean deep. I could feel it eating my ear drum and couldn't do a thing about it, it would not come out. Now if I do not have ear plugs, I wet some napkin and use that anytime welding over head or under a tractor or truck etc.

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scott

05-21-2003 09:00:40




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 Re: What have you learned when welding? in reply to drewjunr, 05-20-2003 15:55:04  
Never use a cutting torch around gun powder!

Many years ago, worked in the evening wrenching on cars, trucks, ect to supplement my income while I was in the service. Guy I worked for had somehow aquired a 1lb coffee can of gun powder. Why is was kept in the shop--I cannot recall. Seemed that can was always in the way and was moved serveral times. Well, I was at the bench one evening with something in the vice and was cutting off rusted bolts or nuts. All of a sudden there is this freight train sound and blue-orange flame shooting up about 6 ft in the air. Lasted about 5-10 seconds (or at least seemd that long). As soon I saw what was happening all I could do was stand and stare at the tube of flame with the torch in my hand (ruined the peice I was working on). Guy I was working for was also frozen in awe (or maybe terror). Afterwards, as we became mobil again, we looked behind-next to the bench and there was that coffee can on the floor (now empty). Only damage was some burnt paper that was hanging on the wall, sorched peg board, and a black spot on the ceiling about the circumference of a 1lb coffee can.
Had to call the wife to come pick me up, spent the rest of the night getting all the blood out of my alcohol stream to keep the shakes down.

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Gordon in IN

05-21-2003 08:50:47




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 Re: What have you learned when welding? in reply to drewjunr, 05-20-2003 15:55:04  
Wear "Safety Glass" (not plastic) safety glasses with side shields (use tinted side shields if possible) under your welding helment. You will have less "eye burn" and you will notice after a while that the lenses of the galsses are "pitted". Better the lens of the glasses "pitted" than your eyes. Use the (more expensive) "coated safety glass" covers over and under the shaded (dark) lenses in your helment. They provide a much better "view" of the weld "arc", "puddle" and "slag"; makes it easier to "see" your welding process, protect both sides of your shaded lense, and provide better protection to your eyes. Clean lense covers and safety glasses often. Replace when needed. Keep your welding leads (electrode cable and ground cable) together. Tape them together with exception of the last 3 or 4 feet. Never get your body between the cables. Never "drape" the electrode cable or the ground cable over your shoulder or any part of your body. Keep the cables as far from your body as possible. High density magnetic field from high amprage current is NOT GOOD for your heart or body. Read the safety caution concerning this from "Lincoln Electric" (Lincoln Welding). The above items do not get talked about as much as most of the other items about welding, but they can make welding easier and safer. Good luck

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TimC

05-21-2003 06:16:47




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 Re: What have you learned when welding? in reply to drewjunr, 05-20-2003 15:55:04  
Never weld with clothing that melts. Wear cotton.



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T_Bone

05-20-2003 21:34:57




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 Re: What have you learned when welding? in reply to drewjunr, 05-20-2003 15:55:04  
From another welder 35yrs ago:
Never use a chain for a safety lariat. While 30ft high on a I-beam he stuck his rod to the chain then touched the beam with bare hands. We had to turn off the Lincoln Pipeliner to stop him from twitching. He was shook up and burned in a few spots but otherwise ok.

My biggest blunder:
I'm 18yrs old and my first job as a new welder. Never squat with your legs spread open to weld overhead. I'm 6 stories high welding handrail on a loading platform when a hot piece of slag dropped onto the head of my-penis. Where's that foreskin when you need it. LMAO

Since I worked at Coors that had there own medical facility, all women including doctors, I choose to take a tooth pick and dig out the slag myself, about 1/8" deep. Dam did that feel good!

T_Bone

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Geeez..Bone

05-22-2003 18:46:38




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 Re: Re: What have you learned when welding? in reply to T_Bone, 05-20-2003 21:34:57  
I remember when I welded day in day out that I didn't own a pair of jeans that would touch my shoes. As the cuffs on the back got wore and threads would hang off they'd act like a fuse to light the pants leg. It wasn't as bad when it was 15 degrees in the shop and it gave you a nice warm feeling for a minute, but when it was already 100 degrees out it got your attention in a hurry.



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VaTom

05-21-2003 07:30:25




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 Re: Re: What have you learned when welding? in reply to T_Bone, 05-20-2003 21:34:57  
Yikes T-Bone!

I was gonna write about how I got some slag into a shoe once, but it somehow doesn't seem like much now (did at the time). You've mentioned you had kids so I guess it healed up.



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G Taylor....listened to my Uncle

05-21-2003 19:22:30




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 Re: Re: Re: What have you learned when welding? in reply to VaTom, 05-21-2003 07:30:25  
As a kid my father and I watched my Uncle the professional amature self taught welder spatter something together. A ball of molten metal did about the same to him under the pants zipper. Learned several new words that day..... ... Got a nasty "sunburn" one time on the forearms/elbows welding with short sleeves.



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Ray,IN

05-20-2003 19:41:47




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 Re: What have you learned when welding? in reply to drewjunr, 05-20-2003 15:55:04  
I've learned- Don't wear slippers while welding! If you jump when burned you aren't tough enough for the pro's. Don't stand in water while electric welding, there's enough current to fry your bacon. Just when you think you know it well you're ready to begin learning in earnest.



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vince

05-24-2003 10:25:33




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 Re: Re: What have you learned when welding? in reply to Ray,IN, 05-20-2003 19:41:47  
no frayed clothes, can never have too good saftey glasses (walmart has prescription)always wear earplugs since you are also running a grinder and hitting a bell and chipping slag have a lot more in common than you think. get a welding positioner if you are going to be doing stuff heavy enough to hurt your back. Test your local librarian to find a copy of POSITIONEERING by Charles N. Aronson or get your own copy from Koike Aronson www.koike.com I have a c-500 built in 1950 and still as good as new too bad they are now Jap owned. read anything you can also.

Oh don't use the cutting rod or max out your machine to warm stuff up with some old rod. that and air gougers will cook a lot of life out of your machine.

And get insurance; a common story is the guy who lost everything after doing a favor for a "friend" who got hurt when he broke a hook off a loader bucket while doing some thing stupid and the lawyers sued for a "bad weld"

Watch your zoneing or your noise, a grinder and welder flash at 10:30 friday night looks and sounds like manufactureing and you may find yourself in a zoneing fight with the neiborhood jerk.

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