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Breaking the Bead

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DHunter n NOLa

05-15-2003 05:54:23




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Is there a tool, either hydraulic or pneumatic, disigned to break the bead of a large tractor tire without removing the wheel from the tractor? Something portable that can be used in the field and run by a portable air compressor or the hydraulics on the tractor.




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Chaney creek

05-22-2003 17:31:12




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 Re: Breaking the Bead in reply to DHunter n NOLa, 05-15-2003 05:54:23  
The tire man I called out and paid 50 dollars had one that was air operated.I was amazed at how little time it took. He replaced the valve, put water and air back in it and was gone in less than an hour. Go to a commercial tire dealer and he can probably tell you where to get one.
Do you have tubeless rear tires, they plug easy and some times takes a couple of plugs.



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iceman

05-16-2003 11:29:12




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 Re: Breaking the Bead in reply to DHunter n NOLa, 05-15-2003 05:54:23  
I saw a slide-hammer device advertized somewhere. I made one by welding a piece of truck leaf spring to a 3 foot pipe. Now take 5 foot piece of inch-and-a-half black pipe that rides over the 3 foot piece.(like a telescopic arrangment).The 5 foot piece is plenty heavy enough to break the toughest bead. Found the piece of spring on the side of the road. This worked where all other attempts failed.HTH....mike

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T_Bone

05-15-2003 14:12:22




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 Re: Breaking the Bead in reply to DHunter n NOLa, 05-15-2003 05:54:23  
Hi Dhunter,

I use a wood splitting wedge, cheap and effective.
A old splitting maul with a broken handle works well.

I jack up the tire, take the dull sharp end of the maul and lay on the bead to steel seal and hit the maul with a 4lb hammer one time, then move 3" and repeat.

It doesn't look like your doing anything but you "slightly" move the tire bead each time. After about 18" or so the bead will pop inside and is broken.

Repeat on the inside bead and takes less than 12" to break the inside bead.

I bought two 7/8" crow bars, one 12" one 24", at HD for $6 eh. I dulled both sharp ends with a grinder then sanded smooth. My tire irons.

It takes me about 1 hr patch a tube from start to finish and I'm crippled up.

Wal-Mart has 2" round patchs for 20/$5. Pint of rubber glue, $10, 1qt liquid buffer, about $12 NAPA. NAPA/Glimplers patchs and glue is too expensive. Also pick up a screen door screen installing tool at Wally-world, for setting the patch.

I use a 3" wire wheel on a drill motor or air die grinder to buff the patch area, then liquid buff clean, then glue, then patch, then roll the patch with the screen tool. Done

Liquid dish soap in a spray bottle helps the tire slip back on or break a stubberon bead.

T_Bone

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Burrhead

05-17-2003 21:28:47




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 Re: Re: Breaking the Bead in reply to T_Bone, 05-15-2003 14:12:22  
T_Bone--yer right again as usual.

If I was gonna do all the mail order high $$ like some of these do-it-myseff fellers and then waiting at the mail box for a tool I did'nt know how to use anyway I would just spend the $20 and let Leroy fix my tire while I watch Fred and Shady Grady.



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T_Bone

05-17-2003 22:21:00




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 Re: Re: Re: Breaking the Bead in reply to Burrhead, 05-17-2003 21:28:47  
Well Burrhead, they want $50 to fix a tractor tire here if you brought it too them and $80 if they come out with another flat in the area. It's 1hr drive plus fix waiting.

Just alot easier to do the job and get it over with :)

T_Bone



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Burrhead

05-19-2003 13:16:08




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Breaking the Bead in reply to T_Bone, 05-17-2003 22:21:00  
I totally agree with that if it's that much trouble.

I'm dead in the middle of the boonies here where I live but there is a farm equipment shop with a mobile tire service 5 miles away that only charges me $20.

If it's as much trouble to fix his tire as some of these fellers let on it to be I believe I would put steel on the tractor so I never had anymore troubles with it.



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VaTom

05-17-2003 05:56:51




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 Re: Re: Breaking the Bead in reply to T_Bone, 05-15-2003 14:12:22  
Hey T_Bone,

Those goat heads must have gotten bigger since I was a kid riding a bike in your neighborhood. We used to use two tubes, one split open, inside the tire to keep those nasty things from letting the air out. Now they go through tractor tires? Wow!



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T_Bone

05-17-2003 22:16:05




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 Re: Re: Re: Breaking the Bead in reply to VaTom, 05-17-2003 05:56:51  
Hey Tom.

What you want me to rat myself out for driving over a cactus? I learned along ago to never squeel on ones self :)

T_Bone



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VaTom

05-18-2003 14:14:21




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Breaking the Bead in reply to T_Bone, 05-17-2003 22:16:05  
Oops! Sorry. Got any ironwood? I don't need a saguaro.



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T_Bone

05-20-2003 09:14:39




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Breaking the Bead in reply to VaTom, 05-18-2003 14:14:21  
Hi Tom,

You serious about the ironwood? I thought you might be joking but if you do need some I could round you up some small pieces.

T_Bone



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VaTom

05-21-2003 05:35:13




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Breaking the Bead in reply to T_Bone, 05-20-2003 09:14:39  
Hi T_Bone,

If you're heading this way, YES. I'm still using up my last little trunk. I guess you know how heavy ironwood is, won't float in water. Can't imagine what the PO would want to deliver a decent chunk across the country. We've been talking about a road trip, but it won't be this summer, not that summer's quite the right time to visit your area. Thanks for the offer.



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Jim M (RI)

05-15-2003 07:44:55




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 Re: Breaking the Bead in reply to DHunter n NOLa, 05-15-2003 05:54:23  
Hi there,

Look at gemplers web site. They have a tool called bead cheater - Item no GBB. I bought one and it works great. Not cheap - but with most stuff you get what you pay for. I put the link it but don't know if it will work. If not, just sign on to www.gemplers.com and search for item.

Jim



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paul

05-15-2003 12:45:15




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 Re: Re: Breaking the Bead in reply to Jim M (RI), 05-15-2003 07:44:55  
Jim, is that the screw one, not air or hyd powered? Interested in hearing how that works.

I'd guess you forgot to put in _any_ 'Link Title' which is required, so there is nothing to click on in your message? The URL is probably there, but it won't show up without the Link Title field.

--->Paul



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Rod (NH)

05-15-2003 16:01:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Breaking the Bead in reply to paul, 05-15-2003 12:45:15  
Hi Paul,

I think this is what Jim is talking about. It is, indeed, the screw type variety that you turn with a socket wrench. Like Jim, I bought one last year and used it to break the beads on both front and rear tires on my AC-B. It works easily and does a good job...basically just jacks the bead down from the rim until it lets go. The hand lever that you see is used to clamp the thing to the rim to keep it in place. Turning the hex with a wrench does the deed. Pricey is right though.

third party image Rod

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Jim M (RI)

05-15-2003 17:37:42




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Breaking the Bead in reply to Rod (NH), 05-15-2003 16:01:54  
Rod - you are correct. Sorry I didn't get the link right, but you are right on. After beating tires with sledge hammers and tire irons and skinning your knuckles at best, it turns out to be reasonable. Jim



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GregR

05-15-2003 07:15:28




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 Re: Breaking the Bead in reply to DHunter n NOLa, 05-15-2003 05:54:23  
Here are a couple a links that might help.

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Bruce

05-15-2003 13:16:28




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 Re: Re: Breaking the Bead in reply to GregR, 05-15-2003 07:15:28  
If the valve stem is at the top, how do you get all the water out of the tube? You know you cant take the tube out until all the weight of the water is gone.



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Frank M.

05-15-2003 17:24:42




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 Re: Re: Re: Breaking the Bead in reply to Bruce, 05-15-2003 13:16:28  
turn the valve to the bottom. Start the pump, then as the fluid gets to the level of the valve, let the jack down so the weight of the tractor flattens the tire and the valve gets lower than the water level again. You can get nearly all the water out this way.



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DHunter n NOLa

05-15-2003 08:06:21




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 Re: Re: Breaking the Bead in reply to GregR, 05-15-2003 07:15:28  
Thanks for the reply but where do you buy the bead breaking tool?



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Jim M (RI)

05-15-2003 11:30:43




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 Re: Re: Re: Breaking the Bead in reply to DHunter n NOLa, 05-15-2003 08:06:21  
That is a picture of the one I bought from Gemplers.



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Jeff

05-15-2003 06:46:15




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 Re: Breaking the Bead in reply to DHunter n NOLa, 05-15-2003 05:54:23  
You'd have to build a frame of some sort for itit, but you could use
a portapower ram.



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Darryl Polak

05-15-2003 16:32:33




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 Re: Re: Breaking the Bead in reply to Jeff, 05-15-2003 06:46:15  
If you own a electric jack hammer works great



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