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carl

05-12-2003 18:43:44




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There was some spam on a site here about the availability of a chinese made conversion to use pressurized gas for a cutting torch.The site didn't list a U.S. source. Anyone know of availabilty?




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Mark

05-13-2003 18:03:22




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 Re: gasoline fuel for cutting torch in reply to carl , 05-12-2003 18:43:44  
www.petrogen.com

They import the chinese version. I've pulled the patent. It looks fairly simple. Save your pennies. Petrogen wants like $900 for it.



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Ben in KY

05-14-2003 05:46:39




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 Re: Re: gasoline fuel for cutting torch in reply to Mark, 05-13-2003 18:03:22  
900.00... Wow. Buy a good torch set tanks and all for that and have money for quite a bit of gas too.
I had not checked the price just saw them at a farm equip show and thought they were neat. But not THAT neat.



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Mark

05-14-2003 09:18:19




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 Re: Re: Re: gasoline fuel for cutting torch in reply to Ben in KY, 05-14-2003 05:46:39  
I'm still trying to find someone to bring me one back from China. I found the chinese website, and it listed the price at like $230 USD in CHINA. Petrogen is really marking it up.



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T_Bone

05-14-2003 13:05:29




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: gasoline fuel for cutting torch in reply to Mark, 05-14-2003 09:18:19  
Hi Mark,

Coleman camping stoves has the gas generator pretty cheap. Then it's just figuring out tip orifice size.

T_Bone



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Mark

05-14-2003 18:19:52




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: gasoline fuel for cutting torch in reply to T_Bone, 05-14-2003 13:05:29  
Huh? Gas generator? You know this is a liquid fuel torch right?



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T_Bone

05-14-2003 20:15:32




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: gasoline fuel for cutting torch in reply to Mark, 05-14-2003 18:19:52  
Hi Mark,

Is it not coverted to gas before using? Maybe I'm missing something but using a carbon base fuel in liquid form would not be to practical for metal cutting.

Any website info you can steer me too for info?

T_Bone



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Ben in KY

05-15-2003 07:37:55




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: gasoline fuel for cutting torch in reply to T_Bone, 05-14-2003 20:15:32  
T_bone,
Just do a search on "cutting torch gasoline" turns up several things. These are supposed to be neat, but never tried one. Claims to punch 10" or so hole in armor plate pretty fast. And use about the same amount of O2 as regular oxy/acy torch setup. They appear to use a pressurized gasoline container, of course the gas may vaporize in the torch head.



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T_Bone

05-15-2003 12:46:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: gasoline fuel for cutting torch in reply to Ben in KY, 05-15-2003 07:37:55  
Hi Ben,

The pressureized gas container would be the same as the Coleman gas generator. You add liquid fuel, apply pressure, get saturated vapor and use the vapor as the preheat gas or just like using acetylene.

Doing other research last night on H/o2, I stumbled into the flame temps, gasoline/oxy @ 5800*f or just about equal to acet/oxy at 5900*f.

Looks like I know what to do with that old camping stove I found a few years ago. Easy conversion with a cheap fuel supply.

I guess liquid gasoline would have it's place on thick hard steel but I still see it as impractical for general shop use. The higher flame temps would come from using liquid o2.

Search making your own rocket motors for flying rockets. They have some great design therory info available.

T_Bone

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Ben in KY

05-16-2003 02:48:31




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: gasoline fuel for cutting torch in reply to T_Bone, 05-15-2003 12:46:50  
What kind of tip/torch head do you think they use for the gasoline rig ?



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T_Bone

05-16-2003 13:31:47




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: gasoline fuel for cutting torch in reply to Ben in KY, 05-16-2003 02:48:31  
Hi Ben,

I really haven't given it much thought. First thought this morning is the gasoline condensing temperature. I wonder if thats why they vaporize in the torch head?

I'm in a hot climante so it may not effect me but what happens in a cold enviroment? Will the gas vapor condense in the hose?

I'm hoping it'll work something like the old acetylene gas generator did.

Something to look into when I get time.
T_Bone

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Ben in KY

05-12-2003 18:54:07




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 Re: gasoline fuel for cutting torch in reply to carl , 05-12-2003 18:43:44  
check out petrogen dot com



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