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Hi Loren, Your discribing two different problems and it's confusing. With 1/8" rod 180amps would be smoke'n and with a long arc length a molten puddle would be scattered and very unlikely would result in a bead being layed or what could be called a bead. I would look for a bad ground/electrode clamp. Leads that are coiled create a magnetic eddy and will pull a arc all over the place and is very difficult to control. Also called arc wander or arc blow by. Again with the 6013 it sounds like a bad ground or low amperage problem. I would take the time to take apart both your ground and electrode clamps looking for a dirty or loose connection. I've noticed some of the newer machines are very poor rated for multi weld process by the mfg. If the mfg is saying your not going to have much luck I would think it really sucks big time for a non-rated process. This would be caused by the type of power supply of the machine. A invertor based machine may only work well as a Tig machine and not worth a darn for stick. I would list your equipment and see if that gives us some insight. 6013 works well with AC or DCEN. DCEP would be a poor choice. 7014 works well with DCEP and ok AC with DCEN being a poor choice. T_Bone
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