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Saw-z-all/ Reciprocating Saw how thick will it cut

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tool man

04-23-2003 19:02:57




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How thick of metal will a Reciprocating Saw cut through? I have thought about buying one but I want to know how thick of stuff they will cut, before I decide to buy one or not.

Thanks for the info.




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Bus Driver

04-25-2003 16:41:56




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 Re: Saw-z-all/ Reciprocating Saw how thick will it cut in reply to tool man , 04-23-2003 19:02:57  
Any reciprocating saw will perform less well if cutting a thickness that exceeds the length of the blade stroke. The reason is that the teeth must dump the "sawdust" before the tooth will again contact the work. Some saws have orbital action which helps somewhat. But if the work thickness exceeds the stroke, some of the blade teeth will never move out of the cut and will pack with the material just cut. Consider this when buying one of these saws. The bandsaw has an opportunity to clear the teeth much better.

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Scott

04-25-2003 14:20:59




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 Re: Saw-z-all/ Reciprocating Saw how thick will it cut in reply to tool man , 04-23-2003 19:02:57  
I like "the tourch" blade. I had to cut through a 1" diameter "stress proof" rod twice to sister up with a bending tie rod on an impliment once. Both cuts with the same blade and a little oil, then went on to cut other stuff with it. They work great. Like another said, how long is your blade?



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Matthew

04-24-2003 16:24:51




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 Re: Saw-z-all/ Reciprocating Saw how thick will it cut in reply to tool man , 04-23-2003 19:02:57  
Personally, I do not want a saw-z-all for cutting any metal unless my porta-band can't get to it. In my opinion, you are dead on the brand but a little off on the tool. If I were you, I would go down to Home Depot and get the Milwaukee Porta-Band saw that they carry in their tool section. It is one of the best tools and investments that I have ever made. The blades are high quality and the cuts are to. Square every time. The Porta-Band is the only way to go. Just my $0.02. Happy cutting and be careful with what ever method you choose.

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Bill 52 8n

04-24-2003 14:23:31




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 Re: Saw-z-all/ Reciprocating Saw how thick will it cut in reply to tool man , 04-23-2003 19:02:57  
How long of a blade ya got? LOL I've cut 6" C-channel with em, thickest part is about 1/2 inch or so. I agree with the lenox metal blades. The best blade I have used though was a Milwalkee Metal blade called the "Torch". With a little oil it has outlasted any other blade I've used.

Bill



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Rusty

04-24-2003 07:03:30




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 Re: Saw-z-all/ Reciprocating Saw how thick will it cut in reply to tool man , 04-23-2003 19:02:57  
I have used my saw z all from construction on my house to cutting 1/2 plate steel. If you can find them the best blade is from Lenox and its called Demolition. They stay sharp and cut like theres no tomorrow. I guess thats why Albuquerques fire department uses them when they have to cut somebody out of a wreck. I watched them cut a car in half with one blade. Be carefull no matter what you do, Rusty

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T_Bone

04-24-2003 09:20:53




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 Re: Re: Saw-z-all/ Reciprocating Saw how thick will it cut in reply to Rusty, 04-24-2003 07:03:30  
Good call Rusty, I second the Lenox blade for being the best. They also make great hole saws.

T_Bone



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Vern-MI

04-24-2003 05:08:43




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 Re: Saw-z-all/ Reciprocating Saw how thick will it cut in reply to tool man , 04-23-2003 19:02:57  
Try going to a used tool store in your area to look at the condition of various tools after real world use. I thought that either the Milwaukee or the Dewalt would be best. After the trip to the used tool store I decided on a Makita. The Makita's showed all the external abuse but the mechanicals were still in good shape. However the Dewalts and Milwaukees had extensive wear on the drive gears and reciprocating shaft.

Easy does it when using a recprocating saw. Use a sharp blade and don't force it.

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Puller504

04-24-2003 01:28:17




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 Re: Saw-z-all/ Reciprocating Saw how thick will it cut in reply to tool man , 04-23-2003 19:02:57  
Last summer I built a custom hitch for my Oliver I bought. Adjustable for tractor pulling purposes. I used my Milwaukee Sawzall to cut the pieces I needed, some were 1/2 inch thick by 8 inch wide by 21 inches tall to mount the hitch to the original drawbar mount holes on the tractor rear end. I got the top end sawzall with the quick-release blade feature. Is not hard IMHO to make straight cuts, ones needs to be patient and take their time. Is more precise than using the torch. My sawzall is a very handy tool! Don

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T_Bone

04-23-2003 21:15:25




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 Re: Saw-z-all/ Reciprocating Saw how thick will it cut in reply to tool man , 04-23-2003 19:02:57  
Hi toolman,

For the best non-heat metal cutting, I have a 5" Makita 10,000rpm side grinder with a 6" x .0625 thick 10,000rpm fibeglass blade, about $1eh. I've cut some 3/4" SS plate with good results and the blades last a long time. It's just like using a mini chop saw in your hand but 10 times faster.

Use with a full face shield and leather gloves. Only cut with the blade throwing sparks at you with a light blade feed. Cutting pipe is only for the very experienced user.

This is a tool that demands lots of respect.

Draw back, if you smell leather burning it's time to go get stitchs as your cut and usually deep.

T_Bone

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Slowpoke

04-23-2003 23:34:22




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 Re: Re: Saw-z-all/ Reciprocating Saw how thick will it cut in reply to T_Bone, 04-23-2003 21:15:25  
T -Bone... What is your source for 6", $1 cutoff blades?
Also, what is your opinion of a Milwaukee 7"(or maybe 9") angle grinder for $25? It's the old all metal model, advertised in the local free paper?



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T_Bone

04-24-2003 09:16:56




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 Re: Re: Re: Saw-z-all/ Reciprocating Saw how thick will it cut in reply to Slowpoke, 04-23-2003 23:34:22  
Hi Slowpoke,

In this case for the use I described, PLEASE not use any other sidegrinder. It's a safety thing. When we first started using these blades we used the Milwaukee 4.5". That put the blade too close to the knuckle and when the blade would hang you couldn't get your hands away fast enough. Lots of minor injuries (stitchs). On a 6wk job we planed 1/3 of the crew to have been cut, of that 1/2 would need stitchs. We cut alot of SS pipe and there layed the problem as someone would use one hand to hold the pipe. It takes two hands on the grinder at all times.

The larger 7" and 9" doesn't have the high rpm so you tend to push on the blade thus breaking the blade more often. I have seen a 1/2 of blade stuck part way thru a full face shield (very rare). I've also had more than one bruse on my stomach from a part of a blade. There also very clumbsy to use for this application.

The 5" has a long enough body to keep your hands as safe as they can be with this type of cutting. Thats not that safe as you can tell. I have a Makita 5", Model 9024D, that I've for 25yrs and it's still going strong. There about $120 or was 12yrs ago LOL.

The blades that work the best are Apollo Abrasive, Grade A60TB2F

For field working SS, theres not a better tool made.

T_Bone

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Tim

04-23-2003 21:10:15




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 Re: Saw-z-all/ Reciprocating Saw how thick will it cut in reply to tool man , 04-23-2003 19:02:57  
I have used my sawzal for everything from propane tanks to 2 inch sheet steel. Used it so much I had to buy another one because wore first one out. They do take some getting used to but once you are used to them they do a great job. We build custom smokers and trailers here so ours are used a bunch. We use nothing else to cut new steel with.The only thing is get a good saw ( we prefer the DeWalt) as the cheaper ones are not strong enough to cut real heavy stuff.

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Tim B

04-23-2003 20:23:58




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 Re: Saw-z-all/ Reciprocating Saw how thick will it cut in reply to tool man , 04-23-2003 19:02:57  
Ditto and ditto: recipricating saws are mainly for demo work. I occasionally use mine as a jig saw, but it's hard to hold and see what you are doing because of the way it is set up.

You can buy long blades for wood and metal. I have metal cutting blades that are about 4 inches, and I bet you can get longer ones. I seldom use the whole blade because I seldom cut anything much thicker than a 20 penny nail with it.

The longer the blade, the more apt it is to flex while cutting and give you a crooked cut.

I would not buy a saw-z-all to cut metal for fabrication. You can buy abrasive metal cutting blades for a hand-held circular saw. Relatively cheap ($2 - $4 each)and are much faster than a recip saw, and work great for a limited amount of metal cutting.

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Steve

04-24-2003 03:33:07




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 Re: Re: Saw-z-all/ Reciprocating Saw how thick will it cut in reply to Tim B, 04-23-2003 20:23:58  
You better NOT have a plastic saw if you use these cutoff wheels!!!



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ScottT

04-24-2003 10:05:04




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 Re: Re: Re: Saw-z-all/ Reciprocating Saw how thick will it cut in reply to Steve, 04-24-2003 03:33:07  
I've used a circular saw for quite a lot of metal cutting before getting a chop saw. If you plan on going this route, use a cheap saw, the metal/abrasive fines are pretty hard on the bearings.

Scott



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Unimog

04-23-2003 19:42:55




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 Re: Saw-z-all/ Reciprocating Saw how thick will it cut in reply to tool man , 04-23-2003 19:02:57  
I've cut 4" cast iron drainage pipe, no problem.
I have some 12" blades for wood cutting but as
Rod said these tools are best for rough or demo
work.



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Rod (NH)

04-23-2003 19:22:09




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 Re: Saw-z-all/ Reciprocating Saw how thick will it cut in reply to tool man , 04-23-2003 19:02:57  
I have had a Saw-z-all for many years. I VERY seldom use it for wood or metal. IMO that type of reciprocating saw is best for demolition work of very rough cutting use. They are difficult to get a square cut with because of the flex in the blade. They have their use though, particularly when no other tool will do the job.

If you are going to be cutting metal pieces for fabrication type work, I recommend you consider a portable metal cutting band saw instead. I have one and love it. In many cases I will use that instead of a cutting torch or plasma cutter. They will smooth cut up to about a 4" dimension and work well...fairly easy to cut reasonably straight and square if you are careful.

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