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MURATIC ACID DOWN A WATER WELL

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lenray

04-20-2003 12:42:09




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Have some wells that are driven 1 1/4 and 2 inch wells that are approx. 40 feet deep with water coming up in the pipes 30-35 feet when the points get bad hard water iron on the points muratic acid works very well BUT how can I get the acid down into where the point is when it is just poured in the pipe it really boils out without getting down to the bottom.
Thought of using a drop pipe filling that with the acid then using pressure to force it down but would need a check or something to hold it in the drop pipe until pressure was added.
anyhelp would be appreciated--the pellets work but not to well with iron.
len in michigan

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iceman

04-23-2003 08:53:06




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 Re: MURATIC ACID DOWN A WATER WELL in reply to lenray, 04-20-2003 12:42:09  
I did this once on a shower only system. It worked. Used an old shotgun. That was before non-toxic loads. There is some kind of bizmith shot for waterfowling. Don't know if it will rust like steel shot....mike



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thurlow

04-21-2003 20:50:55




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 Re: MURATIC ACID DOWN A WATER WELL in reply to lenray, 04-20-2003 12:42:09  
lenray; this doesn't address your question, so I apologize in advance, but; I've heard of old timers "shooting" their wells with a shotgun (or high-powered rifle, I don't know which); what was that all about???



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TimV

04-22-2003 17:38:09




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 Re: Re: MURATIC ACID DOWN A WATER WELL in reply to thurlow, 04-21-2003 20:50:55  
Thurlow: "Shooting" a well is actually usually done with a driven point, particularly one driven into sand. As time goes by, sand will drift into a point, eventually clogging the screen and rendering the point inoperative. One way of correcting the problem without digging up the point and re-sinking it is to shoot down the pipe with a gun--usually a .22. The impact of the bullet hitting the water causes shock waves to push the sand out of the point, or at least away from the screen, thus opening it back up. It DOES work--I've done it myself when I used to have a point instead of the dug well I now have, but it definitely falls in the category of "kids--don't try this at home"! I've heard of people getting hurt from ricochets, and I can't imagine that having a chunk (or several) of lead in your drinking water supply is the healthiest thing in the world.

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SHeiserman

04-23-2003 16:29:51




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 Re: Re: Re: MURATIC ACID DOWN A WATER WELL in reply to TimV, 04-22-2003 17:38:09  
Done it several times to clean existing well. Always shot it when we installed a new one. Never had trouble with ricochets, used .22 long. Carried the rifle in the van, fairly common deal. I do not want to hear it from the safety crowd, use some common sense and all will be well.



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TimV

04-24-2003 10:06:28




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: MURATIC ACID DOWN A WATER WELL in reply to SHeiserman, 04-23-2003 16:29:51  
SHeiserman: The fellow that got hurt from a ricochet was using a 30-30. The problem with the point was not that it was plugged, but that the vein had collapsed. Did I mention that his natural state of bliss was being about 3/4 in the bag most of the time? I'm sure you can guess the results--gun + beer + empty metal pipe = ouch! Nothing serious, but enough to take a bit of explaining at the emergency room. Done correctly, it's no more dangerous than many of things we do routinely. I usually toss a washer on the end of a string down the pipe to see how much water is in the tube before shooting. If there's less than a foot or so, shooting won't do it any good--it's time to break out the shovel.

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SHeiserman

04-24-2003 19:37:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MURATIC ACID DOWN A WATER WELL in reply to TimV, 04-24-2003 10:06:28  
Good Lord- a 30-30? When I was told to shoot down the pipe I laughed. Always wondered why he had that .22 in his van. It only worked half the time, if it didn't we went to pulling it out.



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TimV

04-25-2003 06:26:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: MURATIC ACID DOWN A WATER WELL in reply to SHeiserman, 04-24-2003 19:37:37  
SHeiserman: You've gotta understand--this was one of our local characters, who never went very far without his "thuddy-thuddy" and a 12-pack of refreshments. It happened at a mutual friend's camp many moons ago, when they were getting ready for hunting season and found their well was dry. Bill decided to play Good Samaritain and help them out, with the aforementioned results. They ended up having to re-sink the point, which they would have done anyway if Bill hadn't wanted to have a "shot" at fixing it himself.

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Bill

04-21-2003 17:01:28




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 Re: MURATIC ACID DOWN A WATER WELL in reply to lenray, 04-20-2003 12:42:09  
Please dont do it, Instead buy a product called newWell Then one by one drop the pellets down the well, and dont breath it. leave it sit 24 hours and then pump it out ( not on your grass or anywheres by your wifes flowers or your wife will kill ya when she sees how fast it kills the flowers) It will help if its a lime or mineral problem but only a short time Best to just spend the moeny and put a new well in. If its a 4-6 inch well make sure the pump and all pipping is out of the well as it will reck any thing gal. Good luck

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Vern-MI

04-21-2003 03:59:47




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 Re: MURATIC ACID DOWN A WATER WELL in reply to lenray, 04-20-2003 12:42:09  
Tried that on my system. It ruined the pump and didn't fix the problem. The pump had to be pulled and replaced and the inlet screen was blocked with a 1/8" layer of Magnesium not Iron as I had expected. Good luck with yours.



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Central Minnesota

04-20-2003 18:53:37




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 Re: MURATIC ACID DOWN A WATER WELL in reply to lenray, 04-20-2003 12:42:09  
Well drillers do this all the time. You need the drop pipe and pressure to get it to the bottom of the point. This is a VERY dangerous procedure and only for a pro. Two reasons- One the acid itself is highly corrosive and cause severe burns to all tissue especially the eyes. Two the chemical reaction gives off a highly toxic fume that burns the lungs and eye tissue and can kill you.



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Jerry (KS)

04-20-2003 18:00:35




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 Re: MURATIC ACID DOWN A WATER WELL in reply to lenray, 04-20-2003 12:42:09  
I might remind you that muratic acid will take the galv. right off the pipe..... ..that's the voice of experince speaking. Then it's RUST CITY big time.



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mikeinmo

04-20-2003 16:37:09




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 Re: MURATIC ACID DOWN A WATER WELL in reply to lenray, 04-20-2003 12:42:09  
I hope this is not for drinking water source!



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