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Richard Fazio

04-16-2003 10:13:49




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I have a chance to buy an old Lincoln gas powered welder for a very good price. It's a friend who will guarantee that it works. It's a model SA 200. I have no idea how old it is. It's got a four cylinder engine and looks in ok shape. Does anyone know these machines? What should I look out for? He wants $1000.00 but I think I can get it for less.




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Weldernils

04-17-2003 03:43:47




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 Re: Lincoln Gas Welder in reply to Richard Fazio, 04-16-2003 10:13:49  
The SA 200 is still made today under the new name Pipeliner 200. It is supposed to be the very best DC arc you can get from a field welder. Parts are readily available and parts lists can be found online at the Lincoln website. SA 200's are very simple basic welders with almost no options yet they still dominate in the opinions of pipeline welders who are well known in the welding business as being the very best stick welders. They used to sell for a dollar a pound. Today they are about $8000. A machine with no options and only DC output selling for that amount of money still having some kind of sustainable market should tell you something.

In the Boston area, with all the industry surplus, $700-1200 for an average SA is what we see.

If the machine is in good working order, it will absolutely improve your welding over most other welders.

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mike

04-16-2003 21:54:06




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 Re: Lincoln Gas Welder in reply to Richard Fazio, 04-16-2003 10:13:49  
Ive got one with a perkins 3 cyl on it paid 800 2 years ago best stick machine ive ever used good luck mike



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Cliff Neubauer

04-16-2003 19:54:55




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 Re: Lincoln Gas Welder in reply to Richard Fazio, 04-16-2003 10:13:49  
I've never used one but those SA-200s are legendary in the pipe line business, I know they were being built in the '40s and I'm pretty sure they still build them. $1,000 is about right from what I have seen sell on ebay and $1,500 isn't unusual for a good one.



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T_Bone

04-16-2003 17:03:26




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 Re: Lincoln Gas Welder in reply to Richard Fazio, 04-16-2003 10:13:49  
Hi Richard,

The SA200's puts out a very excellant DC arc. Very stable arc and that is the heart of serious welding. The only machines that can hold a candle to the Lincolns engine SA machines was Linde and P&H both shop equipment machines and not made any more.

For my area, $1000 is low for a SA200.

Like Mike says, runs a few rods as "friends" have been known to fudge alittle on white lies. LOL


Hold a close arc length with 7018 DCEP looking for extreamly smooth arc transfer. Try 10amps lower/higher in 5amp steps than the amperage you normal run. This will tell you if the reostat (amperage dial) has been burned, usually caused by someone adjusting the amps while welding. If burned it will have a dead spot and needs a new reostat.

T_Bone

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Richard Fazio

04-16-2003 18:04:44




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 Re: Re: Lincoln Gas Welder in reply to T_Bone, 04-16-2003 17:03:26  
T_Bone,

Are parts still available for these machines?



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T_Bone

04-17-2003 08:41:53




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 Re: Re: Re: Lincoln Gas Welder in reply to Richard Fazio, 04-16-2003 18:04:44  
Hi Richard,

You shouldn't have a problem with parts. Something else I noticed last year on Lincoln"s website is theres different models of the SA "style" newer machines. Only a few of that "style" doesn't offer all copper wound generators, the heart of the arc stability. The site doesn't say what the coils of other ones are made from but it should be aluminum, guessing here as I didn't check it out.

That could explain the wild price swing of the older equipment vs new as a AL wound would not bring the money as a CU wound as well as gas vs diesel.

T_Bone

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mikeinmo

04-16-2003 11:52:16




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 Re: Lincoln Gas Welder in reply to Richard Fazio, 04-16-2003 10:13:49  
Tell him you want to burn a few rods with it. That will tell you if everything is working like it is suppose to.



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Walt in Jaxn Tn.

04-16-2003 19:07:57




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 Re: Re: Lincoln Gas Welder in reply to mikeinmo, 04-16-2003 11:52:16  
Is this the same welder i've asked about a couple of questions before? Richard, do you know much about the engine?



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Richard Fazio

04-16-2003 19:40:24




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 Re: Re: Re: Lincoln Gas Welder in reply to Walt in Jaxn Tn., 04-16-2003 19:07:57  
Not yet I haven't got my hands on it yet. Your having a spark problem right? I was just looking through a manual for a wisconsin engine with a magneto. There are breaker points in there to be adjusted like a distributor. The manual I have covers a wico and morse magneto. I would imagine they are similar to the bosch. Ask away and I'll see if I can help you. Did you get the magneto off the engine yet?

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