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moonlite

04-06-2003 18:21:09




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I would like to join copper in making a bracelet. I can use silver solder but would like to keep the joint looking like same color. Have been unable to weld with oxy acetylene using copper for filler. Do not have a tig. Any help?




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DaveK(IN)

04-14-2003 20:14:28




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 Re: Joining copper in reply to moonlite, 04-06-2003 18:21:09  
In the electrical trade we use an exothermic process that makes a solid copper mass of the wire being joined. Cadweld is one such company and they make forms for # 6 wire. It is a bit expensive per weld but it may give you the look you want or you may be able to fabricate your own mold and only buy the welding charge. Just a thought



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T_Bone

04-06-2003 21:48:47




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 Re: Joining copper in reply to moonlite, 04-06-2003 18:21:09  
Hi Moonlite,

Try using a slight reducing flame while keeping the filler rod with-in the flame while welding using low heat. Base metal and filler should be SS wire brushed clean and if thin at the weld joint use a clean SS block on the backside.

Is the CU base metal and filler from the same CU mix?

I've never tried borax/alcohol as a flux on CU but it should work well.

What does it do when you try to weld with oxy/acet?

T_Bone

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moonlite

04-07-2003 02:59:29




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 Re: Re: Joining copper in reply to T_Bone, 04-06-2003 21:48:47  
This is #6 electrical wire. I have tried melting base metal together but the metal collapses before it makes a puddle. If I thought I needed a filler material i could use a #12 or #14 wire. I have borazx based brazing flux.



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T_Bone

04-07-2003 17:46:23




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 Re: Re: Re: Joining copper in reply to moonlite, 04-07-2003 02:59:29  
Hi Noonlite,

Try using a lower flame temperature, about 1/2 of what your using now. Take a scrap piece of wire and flaten, then clean, then try running a bead using your filler wire. When your flame temp is correct it will have a molten puddle like Tig welding puddle.

Your filler rod is too large of diameter. Try some 18/20/22ga solid telephone/thermostat or one strand of multi-strand wire for filler.

If too small of filler rod you will need to add alot of fill too fast, then it would be time to increase filler rod diameter.

If too large then the filler won't be liquid when added to the molten puddle thus sticking just before entering the weld puddle. This leads one to believe that there heat input is too low so they add more heat thats causes the base metal to be over heated.

This would be true for any welding process and very noticeable with gas or Tig welding.

Remove the filler rod oxides with emery paper.

T_Bone

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