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Welding chain hook on JD bucket ??

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Bill

03-31-2003 20:32:53




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I need to stick weld a chain hook on my JD bucket. My question is this :

Will welding this chain hook mess up the electrical system on my 65hp diesl tractor ?

What precautions if any should I take, and how about saftey with a full tank of diesl ?

Thanks,

Bill




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T_Bone

04-02-2003 23:58:24




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 Re: Welding chain hook on JD bucket ?? in reply to Bill, 03-31-2003 20:32:53  
Hi Bill,

A full fuel tank is safer than a partial tank of fuel. It's the fumes that are explosive where as a full tank will just burn, usually :)

I also never leave a weld area while it's hot, go take a leak, get a cup of coffee, etc as thats when all he11 brakes loose. When things cool off then it's time to relax.

I always disconect both battery leads while welding, always have, always will and have yet smoke any electronic componet, providing you ground near your weld joint. Battery leads should not touch any metal.

Were not there looking at what your doing so it hard to see all the faults from here.

T_Bone

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mike

04-01-2003 19:32:34




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 Re: Welding chain hook on JD bucket ?? in reply to Bill, 03-31-2003 20:32:53  
They make a deal that has 2 leads, 1 for the pos. and 1 for the neg. side of battery. You hook up when welding,It is supposed to take care of the voltage surges. I believe that MAC or SNAP ON carries these.



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ShepFL

04-01-2003 11:27:57




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 Re: Welding chain hook on JD bucket ?? in reply to Bill, 03-31-2003 20:32:53  
Another thought while welding is to ad 3pth Cat I or Cat II brackets outboard of center line AND a hook directly on center line. I did this so I could mount my 3pth boom pole to my backhoe bucket. I then adjust top link using chain hook welded to boom pole and other end of chain attached to the hook welded to center line on the bucket.

This allows me to use my boom pole while attached to my bucket for a variety of purposes - mostly unloading / loading implements onto trailers. This fall plan to use it for butchering. My wife calls it my "Poor Man's Hoist".

FWIW

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thurlow

04-01-2003 14:13:13




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 Re: Re: Welding chain hook on JD bucket ?? in reply to ShepFL, 04-01-2003 11:27:57  
Weeeee ll; heeeee eeell; Shep; been farming 'bout 50 years; thought I had pretty much built or considered building everything that could be built. Your idea is a new one to me; 'spect I'll be doing that. As far as your wife naming it; my wife calls some of my stuff, "His Jed Clampett" whatever. Thanks



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Scott

04-02-2003 06:58:32




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 Re: Re: Re: Welding chain hook on JD bucket ?? in reply to thurlow, 04-01-2003 14:13:13  
Got one that works better than that. I have a set of pallet forks with removeable forks. Frame also doubles as bale spear with removeable spears. Built a short boom pole that bolts in holes vacated by bale spears. Works excellent!!



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Big Jake

04-01-2003 06:47:49




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 Re: Welding chain hook on JD bucket ?? in reply to Bill, 03-31-2003 20:32:53  
I just weld the hook onto a flat plate ? bolt the plate onto the bucket



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Russ

04-01-2003 10:34:51




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 Re: Re: Welding chain hook on JD bucket ?? in reply to Big Jake, 04-01-2003 06:47:49  
That's what I did in the center where the bucket was hollow , and put spacers in between, so as not to colaps the tubing. On the outer corners I just welded them on, where there was more subtacial steel. My bucket comes off in about a minute so I did that, I worry more about the electronics than the fuel. This is on a 4600.



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Deas Plant.

03-31-2003 23:00:23




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 Re: Welding chain hook on JD bucket ?? in reply to Bill, 03-31-2003 20:32:53  
Hi, Bill. Shouldn't be any problems with the diesel tank, unless it is leaking on to the bucket right where you want to weld the hook.

Make sure you take a lead off the battery so that current from your welding operation can't get to the alternator and blow it up. Alternator circuitry is a little sensitive to the kinds of voltages and amperages that welding uses.

Also, put the earth lead of your welder directly on to the part of the bucket where you are welding
rather than on the loader frame somewhere. Welding current loves to travel via the beautiful, clean metal of hydraulic ram rods, but when it does, it sometimes leaves little spark marks behind to chew out your seals.

Happy frizzling.

You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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moonlite

04-02-2003 02:42:37




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 Re: Re: Welding chain hook on JD bucket ?? in reply to Deas Plant., 03-31-2003 23:00:23  
Also wire braiding in Hydraulic hoses. Caught a trencher on fire like that.



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Glenn Ayers

04-01-2003 04:49:39




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 Re: Re: Welding chain hook on JD bucket ?? in reply to Deas Plant., 03-31-2003 23:00:23  
Good advise Deas. The current also loves bearing races & rollers too.

~Glenn



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