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Howard H.

03-29-2003 19:01:46




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One other question about welders:

We've worn out 2 Lincoln crackerbox stick welders over the past few years.

It's looking like we'll need a new one before too long, and I was just wondering whether most folks would rather spend the $270 or so for a regular Lincoln stick welder or the $380 or so for the same welder with the DC adjustment or would it be better to go to a wire welder??

I've never used a wire welder, so I don't know exactly what I'm missing. We use a fair amount of 7018 rod on certain implements to prevent cracking...


Thanks for any advice!
Howard H.

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kydavid

03-30-2003 08:40:41




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 Re: Welder Question in reply to Howard H., 03-29-2003 19:01:46  
Howard,

I have to ask, how do you wear out the Lincoln AC welders? Are they 225's? I thought I used mine hard and have never worn one out. Did get rid of 3 couple of years ago that had some dead spots on the dial but they were 40 years old.

With that said, I would get the AC/DC machine. I have a Miller Thunderbolts, AC/DC and I generally only use them when I need DC work, prefer the Lincoln straight AC for AC work, arc seems more stable. Rule of thumb, if you plan to weld new steel, inside, get a MIG; if most of your work will be painted or rusted metal and/or outside get the AC or AC/DC. Real curious about the wearing out of the welders, though. Wonder about the power feed in, how much voltage drift you are getting, or if neutral may be shorting to ground.

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Fred OHMung@in-touch.net

04-02-2003 09:39:51




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 Re: Re: Welder Question in reply to kydavid, 03-30-2003 08:40:41  
Add this to Howard's comments...or has it been used a bunch for thawing pipes or used with a carbon arc torch. These are 100% duty cycle. I would think that your nose would tell you if the windings were getting too hot...that always happens before the welder burns up. L8R....Fred OH



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Bill

03-30-2003 07:55:22




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 Re: Welder Question in reply to Howard H., 03-29-2003 19:01:46  
I recently bought a used wire welder, still have my AC-DC stick, For me if you need to weld big iron, the DC with 7018 rod works best, but wire welder aint to bad either,wire welder does a neater job, I think you can get wire welders with stick capabilities, I spose there high priced, Also think DC with 7018 works better, my cheap advice;;;;Bill



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BFO

03-30-2003 05:26:56




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 Re: Welder Question in reply to Howard H., 03-29-2003 19:01:46  
I think you would be under powered, check out the Idealarc 250, 250 amps dc @ 30% duty cycle, as opposed to 125 amps dc @ 20% duty cycle. Bigger is better. HTH



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Bud in NC

03-30-2003 05:06:02




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 Re: Welder Question in reply to Howard H., 03-29-2003 19:01:46  
I have a small wire welder that I use for farm gates and light stuff. I have a Lincoln AC welder that hasn't even been plugged in in several years. I have an old Westinghouse DC welder that does 95% of what I do - 7018, stainless stick welding, Carbon sTEEL and SS TIG welding - the DC machine will probably handle everything you'll weld.



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Scott Green

03-30-2003 04:01:01




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 Re: Welder Question in reply to Howard H., 03-29-2003 19:01:46  
If buying a stick welder , I would never buy a new one with AC only.



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