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JC

03-14-2003 12:28:50




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I have a Mac 120 (don't laugh) that I've had for
probably over 20 yrs. Only put a spark plug and pull rope on it, as well as normal chain replace.
I have looked for new saws to replace it with but
there doesn't seem to be anything on the market
as good. I use it for trimming trees and working
near stone walls and hedge rows. The 12" bar is
perfect for this use. I have larger Stihl for big
work. Every new saw now seems to come with a 16"
bar and same small engine. Does anybody know of
a saw from any manufacturer that comes with a 10"
or 12" bar, so when old Mac bites it I can find
something similar. Thanks.

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hjp

03-18-2003 16:20:46




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 Re: Chain Saws in reply to JC, 03-14-2003 12:28:50  
echo,stihl,poulan,(johnsered/husq),domar,sachs all make PRO LEVEL limbing saws(12-14) and like any machine,good routine maintainence and care goes a long way!!!!! but I do agree with either a husq or a stihl they have alot of specialty saw cofiguations.



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John in MA

03-16-2003 19:11:44




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 Re: Chain Saws in reply to JC, 03-14-2003 12:28:50  
Echo makes a small saw in both top and rear handle configurations. Good for 10-16" bars. They're cheap, light, available at Home Despot, and reliable--lots of arborists use them if they don't want to pony up for an 020T or 335XPT.

I personally wouldn't buy a small non-pro saw from any other common company. The Stihl models like the 017 are not hot by any means, and the Husky 136 and 141 are just Poulans dressed up.

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Ludwig

03-15-2003 06:53:45




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 Re: Chain Saws in reply to JC, 03-14-2003 12:28:50  
JC, don't listen to those who say the Mac isn't a good saw. I've got a Mac 10 that was my granfather's. Even after sitting for 3 years it'll start on the fifth pull. After using it an hour or so it'll start on the first pull every time. Great Uncle had one too, can't remember the model, but that one had a chain sharpening stone built in. Made it so you could go a long time in between sharpenings. Thats a good saw too, use that alot around our place in the summers.

I think Mac got a bad rep because their quality control is very poor. They put out some excellent saws, like mine, and many more very poor saws, like everybody else has. If yours is good consider yourself lucky!

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John in MA

03-16-2003 19:06:13




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 Re: Re: Chain Saws in reply to Ludwig, 03-15-2003 06:53:45  
McCulloch did make very good saws, but that was over 20 years ago. The switched to horrible consumer plastic after the European companies took over the US saw market. Same thing happened to Homelite a little later. Both have now been sold to low-end Asian companies.



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John Green

09-15-2004 14:09:40




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 Re: Re: Re: Chain Saws in reply to John in MA, 03-16-2003 19:06:13  
Homelite is not owned by John Deere.



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John Green

09-15-2004 14:11:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Chain Saws in reply to John Green, 09-15-2004 14:09:40  
I mean Homelite is NOW owned by John Deere.



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bob

03-14-2003 23:07:22




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 Re: Chain Saws in reply to JC, 03-14-2003 12:28:50  
You can order your new saw with any properly fitting bar of any length. It will be a little cheaper with a shorter bar. Dealers just put out samples with 16" bars on them because that is what the average person thinks they need. Ask your dealer and don't assume you have to take whatever is sitting out there. There are all kinds of options.



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RayP(MI)

03-14-2003 17:20:27




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 Re: Chain Saws in reply to JC, 03-14-2003 12:28:50  
A good chain saw shop should be able to provide you with your choices of bar lenghts for most machines, and fabricate a chain of proper length to go with.



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Tim B

03-14-2003 13:33:48




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 Re: Chain Saws in reply to JC, 03-14-2003 12:28:50  
You got the Mac that actually starts! Good for you!



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easyboy

03-14-2003 15:09:34




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 Re: Re: Chain Saws in reply to Tim B, 03-14-2003 13:33:48  
you had 20 years ha ha did you ever youse it mine only ran for about two minutes , your lucky guy good lucky lucky



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john

03-14-2003 14:30:45




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 Re: Re: Chain Saws in reply to Tim B, 03-14-2003 13:33:48  
20 years ??? I had trouble keeping mine running 20 minutes..

I've got a Husky 55 now and am in love...as much as you can be with something that will work you slap to death before it quits... don't think they make a short bar... the only ones I've seen are Poulans (14")and some electric junk at Home Depot

sorry
john



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Roy in UK

03-15-2003 05:24:36




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 Re: Re: Re: Chain Saws in reply to john, 03-14-2003 14:30:45  
Sounds a bit like a Mac hedge trimmer I had... useless! I could never get the thing to go. Actually I bought a Stihl 017 chainsaw "off the shelf" with a 14" bar and very good it is too. Can't you get that model in the U.S.A. ?



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john

03-14-2003 14:30:19




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 Re: Re: Chain Saws in reply to Tim B, 03-14-2003 13:33:48  
20 years ??? I had trouble keeping mine running 20 minutes..

I've got a Husky 55 now and am love...as much as you can be with something that will work you slap to death before it quits... don't think they make a short bar... the only ones I've seen are Poulans (14")and some electric junk at Home Depot

sorry
john



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JC

03-15-2003 07:02:57




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 Re: Re: Re: Chain Saws in reply to john, 03-14-2003 14:30:19  
Yup 20 years at least and I only paid about $50
when a store was going out of business. I put
many hours on this bad boy and never babied it.
Used high-test gas and Mac oil. Still runs fine
but I figure it's age and lack of dealer parts I
will have to replace it. I stripped off the junk
chain brake and made it a great saw for using next to stone walls. I've cleaned brush around my
fields for miles and it still is going. Also have
a Mac Pro V brush cutter that works great. I've
been VERY lucky with this stuff everybody calls
junk.

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Joe

03-16-2003 06:11:26




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Chain Saws in reply to JC, 03-15-2003 07:02:57  
Hey JC. I run a lawn and garden shop. I have worked on many MAC's and almost all other brands as well. I have to say the Older Macs (MORE THAN 10 years old) are good ones. The company that now calls itself Mac. Makes cheap junk. And since it was sold and repurchases most of the parts for the GOOD Mac's are No longer available. As for a good replacement I have seen no other brand of saw compete with Husqvarna. They make an Arborhists (spelling sucks) model 335 XPT with a 14". THis is made for limbing and has a top mounted handle for one hand use. Also they have a 136 that is standard with a 16" but could have a smaller bar put on. The 335 is a professional saw and runs $399, the 136 is homeowner and runs $179. Hope this helps, I do like the Macs just not the ones that are for sale now!!! They are a @#$% to work on and are junk. Joe

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Robert in W. Mi

03-16-2003 06:38:56




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Chain Saws in reply to Joe, 03-16-2003 06:11:26  
I agree 100%, I have an old Pro-Mac 55 and it's still a good saw to this day. I wouldn't waste my $$ on a mac of today! I'm all Husqvarna now, and i have (5) of them. I got rid of the last Stihl a year or so ago, and i don't think i'll be going back to them either. Robert



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