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Dan

03-14-2003 10:15:43




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Hope this ain't too far off subject. I've got a guy coming to quote installing vinyl siding on my house. I've alreay checked out his references and some of his past work, but I want to make sure I get a decent quality material. What are some points to cover regarding thickness or gauge of material, color, style, etc? How can I tell cheap stuff from good quality stuff? Thanks for any input.




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Thanks for your input guys- I appreciate it.

03-16-2003 11:46:18




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 Re: Question re Vinyl Siding in reply to Dan, 03-14-2003 10:15:43  
This gives me something to go on. I don't feel like I'm totally in the dark now. Thanks alot. Dan



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woodtick

03-15-2003 13:49:58




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 Re: Question re Vinyl Siding in reply to Dan, 03-14-2003 10:15:43  
Look around your area, when you see a vinyl job that stands out ,then go ask the owner who did the work, We got a guy in my area that can make a vinyl house a work of art, and a lot of jobbers that-well just arent as good



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former lumberyard manager

03-14-2003 20:15:20




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 Re: Question re Vinyl Siding in reply to Dan, 03-14-2003 10:15:43  
That,s a tough question to answer simply. Thicker is not necessarily better. The thicker sidings (within reason) simply have more air entrained in them during the extrusion process.
The amount of titanium oxide injected in the vinyl is what affects the "grade" (the more the better). Titanium oxide is what blocks UV rays (UV rays deteriorate vinyl and cause the fade and chalking). I always suggested (and bought for my own house) a good steel siding- Rollex. The problem with vinyl siding mfgrs is two-fold. Most major brands have a good siding and they also have a cheapie, so vinyl name brands don't always mean much. The other problem I experienced was companies being bought out by other companies, making additional siding a problem. Whatever you decide to go with, make sure that you get 1 to 2 squares extra, and store it away in case you need it for repairs- the grain textures, colors, and profiles change quite often. And speaking of repairs with vinyl siding, it WILL crack when hit with large hail, and it WILL crack during cold weather if struck, and it can come off with wind (the aforementioned problems don't always happen, but if it does, you need materials for repair).
If you need additional help, contact your local lumberyard for the phone number of your state's Lumberman's Association. They will have good contact info for you.
Good luck.

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Don LC

03-14-2003 17:35:03




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 Re: Question re Vinyl Siding in reply to Dan, 03-14-2003 10:15:43  
White is the only color that will not fade (very slightly)The "best" as you say will be the thickest,"BUT" it showes the overlap joints more ....I always use the next grade down.....



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Tim B

03-14-2003 12:01:33




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 Re: Question re Vinyl Siding in reply to Dan, 03-14-2003 10:15:43  
I would make sure that the vinyl siding is produced by a well known manufacturer, at minimum make sure it is virgin vinyl, not recycled. Ask for a sample you can bend and break, and take a hammer to to gauge how tough you think the stuff is. Good siding is pretty flexible and durable. Cheap is brittle.

If you get anything but the basic painted-house colors, (my siding has a fabric outter cover to make it kinda look like stained wood) get an extra bundle for repairs, window replacements etc. If there is any chance you might add-on to the house, get enough to cover the addition.

Have him show you how he plans to cover the eaves, woodwork, etc. The more he uses molded vinyl on in those areas (i.e., pieces made for the those areas), the better: less bended aluminum to cover those features is better.

Vinyl siding does look like vinyl siding, but unless you have a "trophy" exterior look to your house, sure beats painting!

Good luck.

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buck

03-14-2003 10:49:47




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 Re: Question re Vinyl Siding in reply to Dan, 03-14-2003 10:15:43  

I would be more concerned on the quality of his work than the product. My experience is that the workmanship causes more problems than the product itself. Ask him for a sample and got to a local building supply and compare both the material and a unit price. Should he be trying to sell you a product based on a brand name that generates a higher price then do more homework.



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Scott Green

03-16-2003 11:51:00




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 Re: Re: Question re Vinyl Siding in reply to buck, 03-14-2003 10:49:47  
I agree Buck , Having been in the business for years , I've installed many , many brands , and qualities. On my own jobs , I stick with the middle to upper class qualities. When subbing , I get anything from middle class to junk quality. In the end , if installed properly , they all look good. I would say trim work is most important.



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Central Minnesota

03-14-2003 10:37:18




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 Re: Question re Vinyl Siding in reply to Dan, 03-14-2003 10:15:43  
There's a reason that most commercial buildings use Steel. Even the really good vinyl is subject to ultraviolet light degradation. Yes, the baked on paint on the steel will fade, but you can repaint it in 20 years. In my opinion vinyl looks like..... Well, vinyl. Compare steel to any plastic over the long term and I think you'll agree that it's a far better value.



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