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What type of trailer to haul a tractor?

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F20 in MI

03-05-2003 05:59:26




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I am looking to purchase a tandem axle trailer to haul my Farmall F20 to shows. I have been checking out trailers and finding that there are more options than I orignally thought. Are brakes on both axles worth it? Steel deck vs wood? $200 for new tires or used? Tube frame or channel? What is everyones experience and opinion? I can't go with a gooseneck.




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BlueLite

03-06-2003 05:35:13




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 Re: What type of trailer to haul a tractor? in reply to F20 in MI, 03-05-2003 05:59:26  
First start with your govment regs.

I've hauled tractors on haywagons but that's when I know I can use the back roads. Very slow
haulin too. The spindles on these wagons are low speed types not suitable for highway.

For a highway tandem trailer, you can use surge hydraulic, or electric. If your regs don't specify how many, at least one axle(front) should have brakes. Try to get your axles as close together as your spring spacing will allow. Makes for easier turning and is easier on the rear axle bearings. Some people use 4in channel but I find it will bend in time. But 4in channel that has a truss system above it is stronger. The truss system is handy for side attachments if you sometimes don't want a straight flatbed. Make sure you have closely spaced spreaders under the frame, and at least 2 that are thicker and heavier and span the width and attached just ahead of the front spring hanger, and just behind the rear spring hanger. If you can add a hefty bolt or too at the joints along with the weld you'll have a more reliable and safer joint.

I think you'd want an electric winch or a hand
winch attached somewhere near the front tongue. If hand winch, get the heavier kind with low gearing or else you'll spend a lot of time trying to work a prybar in the crank to get the back wheels of that tractor on the flat. You'll need tie down chains or straps. A corrugated steel truss supported double ramp is handy. The type that's hinged onto the flat and can be swung upwards.

On lights it's pretty well standard except to say don't forget to install the amber side lights
at each corner and not just reflectors. Many a time I've pulled out onto an intersection from a stop to find the guy's trailer hasn't finished passing thru.

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f20 in mi

03-05-2003 17:55:18




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 Re: What type of trailer to haul a tractor? in reply to F20 in MI, 03-05-2003 05:59:26  
Thanks for your help. Looks like a wood deck. My tractor only measures 6 feet wide so I should be able to get by with a regular deck trailer. I will definately go for brakes on both axles. You can see the tractor in the pictures area of this site if you're interested. It is the 1937 Farmall F-20.



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farmall300u

03-05-2003 14:56:17




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 Re: What type of trailer to haul a tractor? in reply to F20 in MI, 03-05-2003 05:59:26  
What kind of trailer are you looking at? I bought a new 10,000 lb tandem axle trailer with loading ramps and brakes on every wheel with a presure treated deck for $1700. The problem I have is that I needed to turn the wheels on my Super M in to get it loaded properly. I should have spend the additional $600-$700 and got a deck over trailer.



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03-05-2003 17:57:49




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 Re: Re: What type of trailer to haul a tractor? in reply to farmall300u, 03-05-2003 14:56:17  
1700 for 10000# trailer sounds real reasonable.



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D13

03-05-2003 10:41:14




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 Re: What type of trailer to haul a tractor? in reply to F20 in MI, 03-05-2003 05:59:26  
Do not get the "new" tires uless you inspect them first, my "new" tires were recaps and the sidewalls blew in 5 years.

Wood deck is usually yellow pine, seal and paint it after a full summer.

I've had mine for 12 years, replaced the deck in year 5 with oak, repacked bearings 1 time, replaced all 4 tires with high load (2 triler tires and 2 load range E truck tires). Mine uses GM bolt pattern rims, found rims were flexing at 7000# (hubcaps popped off on corners) so put on Suburban rims and no more problems.

Brakes on all axles is Mandatory, and you must prove they work. Weighmaster will inspect and ticket will be issues if not functional.

Key is weight and width. I haul 6000# on my trailer, using factory Class 3 hitch, heavy balls, and 7 wire connectors. Stopping is more of an issue than going. Biggest problem was that my Massey had the wheels set too wide and I couldn't get the weight as far forward as I like, but careful driving made it work.

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markct

03-05-2003 09:33:13




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 Re: What type of trailer to haul a tractor? in reply to F20 in MI, 03-05-2003 05:59:26  
i dont know what your state laws are, but here in connecticut trailer brakes are required on all wheels of a trailer. i built an 18ft car trailer a few years ago and when i went to get it inspected they failed me for only having one brake axle on the trailer



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Ludwig

03-05-2003 07:52:35




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 Re: What type of trailer to haul a tractor? in reply to F20 in MI, 03-05-2003 05:59:26  
4 wheel brakes are a definate!
Make sure you measure the width of your tractor and get one wide enough. I'm pretty sure my Regular and Super M would require a deckover. When I hauled the Regular we borrowed a non-deckover (don't know the correct term) and had to ride one rear wheel up over the fender when we loaded. Fortunately it was a tough trailer and we didn't hurt it, but its a lousy way to haul a tractor with one wheel up on the rail.

I'd have a wooden deck, like somebody else said its easy to replace. Its also handy if you're hauling something other than a tractor to be able to screw 2x4s right to the deck to help hold the load. I'd do new tires unless the used ones were excellent, I've never changed a tire on a loaded tractor but I'm thinking I wouldn't want to.
I like a pintle hitch for turning tight and for going into places I shouldn't really be, field roads and such, but a ball hitch is smoother pulling and stopping.

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Big Jim

03-07-2003 11:31:04




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 Re: Re: What type of trailer to haul a tractor? in reply to Ludwig, 03-05-2003 07:52:35  
I know exactly what you are talking about. With trailers that are not deck over, the maximum width deck you can get is 7 foot. A lot of the row crop tractors will not fit on a deck of this width, even if the tractor is OK from a weight standpoint.
If you get a deck over trailer you will have a 8.5 foot wide deck and tractor width will never be an issue.



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kraig WY

03-05-2003 07:16:02




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 Re: What type of trailer to haul a tractor? in reply to F20 in MI, 03-05-2003 05:59:26  
I use a goose neck but it dosn't matter. You can get in more trouble not stopping then not going. I like good tires too. But I would diffently go with the brakes no matter what type of trailer you're talking about.



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Jerry B

03-05-2003 06:48:55




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 Re: What type of trailer to haul a tractor? in reply to F20 in MI, 03-05-2003 05:59:26  
As far as brakes on both axles: YES. You need all the stopping power you can get. Maybe not today or tomorrow ,but one day someone is going to pull out in front of you or turn left in front of you and if you don't have 4 wheel brakes you won't stop. The police might just consider this to be a contributing factor in the accident.

I like wood decks because they don't buckle under the load and are easily replaced if/when the time comes.

Tube frames are usually stronger (depending on the wall thickness compared to channel) and provide a built in wire conduit.

As far as tires..... I used a set of used, like new tires for mine and they work just fine. I was able to save about $175 going that route. You can buy tires designed and built for use on trailers. These might be the only choice you have if local laws disallow the use of truck or auto tires on trailer.

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