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Mark B

02-25-2003 05:54:43




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Are Morton buildings worth the extra cost that you have to spend to obtain the same size on other brands? I'm looking to put up a building with a nice size shop area. Any opinions? Thanks




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Kermit in SW MO

03-01-2003 17:11:09




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 Re: Morton buildings in reply to Mark B, 02-25-2003 05:54:43  
Last June I had a machinery shed / shop built. I priced Morton buildings, but they were far too expensive for me. I ended having a local contractor put up my metal building for much less than Morton, and it included a concrete floor and electrical wiring. I was disappointed with Morton. I took two floor plans in to the local Morton dealer. The day I went there the dealer was busy with another customer and couldn't talk to me. I was asked to leave the plans and told the salesman would contact me. Two weeks later I received a letter from the salesman with a floor plan that they had drawn up showing what THEY wanted to build. The floor plan they wanted to build didn't match what I wanted built. I couldn't do business with them.

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Bill Smith

02-26-2003 23:28:56




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 Re: Morton buildings in reply to Mark B, 02-25-2003 05:54:43  
Wanting to build a building myself. I have looked over a few mortan buildings. Came to the conclusion that Mortan does build with more characteristics than say, others. Others being, well more plain Jane. Mortan may use some quality, heavier duty sheet metal, but I think I can errect a better building myself than what they do. Stood in one of their buildings just the other day when it was pretty windy, and it was supprizing how much noise that building was making from shifting due to the wind. And the rafter trusses of that particular implement shed are entirely made up of short stock 2by(I think)10"s about 5' long that are put together with those staple template thingy mergigers. Doesn't look like a real solid deal to me. And these pole buildings life expectancies are so long. Yes, I know. But you got to realize that even with using treated poles', they only have a certain life expectancy as well. Maybe longer than untreated poles, but they will not last forever. When poles rot off, then you have big project to maintain building or you have no building. Me personally, I want a shop/machine shed. I want a concrete slab under the shop portion. Rather than do that and put up a pole shed, I am going to go ahead and pour footings and frame the whole thing up. And when I get done with it, my machine shed is going to look like an old red hip roofed barn. It will have a big sliding door on the front, and one on the side. The sides of the building will look like lean two's. And the middle portion of the building will have this hip roof design with a loft just above the top of the entrance sliding doors to provide additional storage. This will be extra space to store parts, special tools, and what ever you want. And the shop portion that is on the concrete slab will be boxed in and insulated with heat and so on. I am going to build this myself to cut cost, build it just exactly the way I want it, and I think I can surpass Mortan quality. Well, I've went on long enough. Hopefully I gave you an idea or two. Just my 2 cents worth.

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3020 Deere

02-26-2003 20:11:47




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 Re: Morton buildings in reply to Mark B, 02-25-2003 05:54:43  
Just wanted to add my three cents... Just built my 63x42x14. one 14' slide door. two walkins front and back same side. also added skylights except I stuck them on the side..under the eves. I had Cleary build mine. 14500.00 start to finish. Included in price I added gutters and insulated the ceiling. I would suggest the insulation in the ceiling for sure. One thing I hate is it raining on the inside and dripping on my equipment. I asked morton to give me a price and frankly wick, astro, morton never would return my calls. Cleary sent a guy out to measure and chat with me.. Morton metal is a little thicker but cleary says they have stronger tinsal strength..Ask me pros and cons no matter what one chooses. Cleary was almost half cost when I compare mine to a few farmers around that have mortons same size..

Good luck...Build it the WAY YOU want and you wont regret it..

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kydavid

02-26-2003 19:44:39




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 Re: Morton buildings in reply to Mark B, 02-25-2003 05:54:43  
Morton makes good buildings, no question. Personally I've found Walter's suits me better, costs about 1/3 less, seems like better quality (thicker steel, better looking wood). Best buildings I have I subbed out. Ordered materials froma local vendor that deals in over runs. Take metal, by taking various colors I got it in a much heavier gage for $18/ square, (1/2 pice). Painted it all anyway. Lumber was the same. Got right at $5200 in a 28'x72'x17', including labor.

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Former Contractor

02-26-2003 18:21:57




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 Re: Morton buildings in reply to Mark B, 02-25-2003 05:54:43  
Morton makes an excellent building, as does Lester's and Astro. I would advise you to steer clear of Menard's, they throw out a low-ball price to get your cash, but the quality just isn't there (I don't care what their ad says). You get what you pay for, period. All the major building companies have very competetive prices on their basic buildings, (usually, but not always, a 40x60x14 with a walk door and split sliding door on the end).
Where the prices go up is with the add-ons: more lenght/width, windows, skylites, overhead doors, overhangs, vented eaves, wainscoating, etc. They all add quite a bit for these, but if you want it, they'll do it.
I could go on for an hour or better relating my experiences with good/bad decisions by buyers, but I won't. Most of those should be discussed on a one-on-one basis between the buyer and seller.
The only three things that I will advise on here are: seriously consider having the steel screwed on instead of nails- a bit more, but screws don't work loose after a few years like nails; second, if you want light, consider eavelights (fiberglass panels in the upper portion of the sidewall) instead of skylights- the fiberglass panels on the roof deteriorate more rapidly from direct sunlight and adverse weather; third, be sure to tell the salesperson exactly what you want to do with the building- ceiling, insulation, hanging heaters, etc. If you fail to have the trusses designed for loads, remove knee braces, or otherwise alter the frame, there goes your warranty (every piece of lumber in them is there for a reason). I saw a lot of things in the 25 years that I was in the industry, and all of them could have been avoided. Don't skrimp on the building. My 2 cents.

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Richard Fazio

02-26-2003 15:28:59




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 Re: Morton buildings in reply to Mark B, 02-25-2003 05:54:43  
I have a morton building. 48W X 60D X 16H. I think it's a great building. You pay extra, but like anything, you get what you pay for. The steel is thicker, the paint is guaranteed, etc. etc. I toyed around with a ton of different ideas and finally went with Morton. The building was done in one month. They actually worked on it maybe 8 days. They really have their s--t together. I put in 8 skylights on both sides of the roof to light it up inside. I don't need lights during the day.

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Nate in IA

02-25-2003 16:31:55




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 Re: Morton buildings in reply to Mark B, 02-25-2003 05:54:43  
Morton is the top of the line when it comes to pole buildings. They have excellent trim packages (overhangs, gutters, etc.) but you pay dearly for them. I sell and erect buildings, STEEL FRAME and wood.
We live in tornado country, and I would rather keep working in my pre enginered steel frame than to be near a wood building (morton, wick, menards, or built from scratch) during a F-4 tornado. A bolt with threads holds more than any amount of 16 penny nails.
As for as price, I don't think I have ever lost a bid to Morton for one of my buildings. Also as far as trim goes we have come a long way with better detailed trim to compete. Someone else said it here to that they charge plenty when you need a damaged sheet replaced. Had to buy one once, it was white and could have gotten it locally for about 1/3 the price. I don't know what width you are looking at, but when you clearspan over 48' with wood,things tend to get spendy and your peak height starts looking like an old red barn.

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kjm

02-25-2003 15:55:09




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 Re: Morton buildings in reply to Mark B, 02-25-2003 05:54:43  
Mark, I priced a Morton about 15 years ago, the price was $13000.00 the one I bought was $5300.00. I like Morton but i`ll let the insurance co worry about the snow load and put the xtra money in a concrete floor. I have a bid in front of me right now for a 40x60x14 with a 15x60 shed with insulation for $15,600.00,Morton can`t touch it.



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Randy

02-25-2003 14:25:53




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 Re: Morton buildings in reply to Mark B, 02-25-2003 05:54:43  

Just as a thought. I have a 36 x 24 2 story Morton building that was built in 1991. It was on the property when we bought it 2 years ago. When we moved in the white paint on the roof panels was flaking off. With moving in and everything I didn't give it a thought. After being in a while I decided to give Morton a call and see about the problem. The guy at Morton told me that in 1991 they had a bad run of white roof panels, the metal wasn't cleaned properly before painting. They warranty the panels but unfortunately only for the original owner. This after they admitted having a production problem. By now half the roof is bare galvanized metal, everytime we have wind it flakes off in big sheets. The distributor quoted me a price over the phone to fix it and I pay for it and when he sent me a written quote it was over 3 times the price. I have since called 6 times and they never call back. The factory says it has to be handled by the dealer/distributor. I will be contacting an attorney and or the state consumer protection agency. The roof is rusting in places now and I'm worried what's going to happen as time goes on. I don't think (even as second owner) I should pay for an admitted defect. I need to put up another building, but I will be looking at somewhere else and check the warranty fine print. I appreciate any feedback. Thanks!!!

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havvey

02-25-2003 13:41:47




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 Re: Morton buildings in reply to Mark B, 02-25-2003 05:54:43  
you get what you pay for the warrenty and if you sell the property the value is there beware there are several companies whos buildings cost alot dowm the road the bitterness of poor quality lingers long after the low price is gone



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BEN

02-25-2003 11:53:24




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 Re: Morton buildings in reply to Mark B, 02-25-2003 05:54:43  
MORTON BUILDS A GREAT BARN, OURS HAS FULL 6"X6" POSTS AND A GOOD TRUSS SYSTEM, CAPABLE OF SUPPORTING THE HEAVY SNOWS WE GET IN THE GREAT LAKES REGION. THEIR DOORS ARE SOLID AND MOST HAVE TRACK ON TOP AND BOTTOM. THE ONLY DRAWBACK TO A MORTON BUILDING, IS THAT THEY ROLL THEIR OWN STEEL (HAVE THEIR OWN STEEL DIES). THEREFORE, IF YOU DECIDED TO BUILD ON TO THE BUILDING IN THE FUTURE, YOU WOULD REALLY NEED TO HAVE MORTON BUILD THE ADDITION SO THAT THE METAL ALL MATCHED YOUR ORIGINAL STRUCTURE. BUT OTHER THAN THAT WE LOVE OUR MORTON BUILDING.

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WaltMe

02-25-2003 10:18:52




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 Re: Morton buildings in reply to Mark B, 02-25-2003 05:54:43  
I have a morton building that was built about 8 years ago. I looked at others and went with morton My barn is 160x60 horse barn with arena and no
problems with it. We live in Maine and get a lot of snow and there warrenty and the design to take thesnowload. If you need any more info please email me Walt



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Jhill

02-25-2003 08:28:49




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 Re: Morton buildings in reply to Mark B, 02-25-2003 05:54:43  
Neighbor just had a new Morton building installed. Morton builds a very fine building. They seem to have all the details others miss or ignor. Definitely a premium building



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Ducknose Bob

02-25-2003 06:24:22




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 Re: Morton buildings in reply to Mark B, 02-25-2003 05:54:43  
I am set on having Morton build my shop with an apartment in it. The reasons being, their reputation and their guarantee. It seems like everybody and their brother will build you a steel building, but who guarantees their materials and how qualified are they to do the welding, design etc. This is definitely another case of getting what you pay for. I hope that I have not made a mistake in my wanting a Morton building, but I think it is hard to go wrong with a company that has been in business about 100 years, especially since I intend on living in one third of it and using the rest as a workshop.

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Don LC

02-25-2003 07:59:39




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 Re: Re: Morton buildings in reply to Ducknose Bob, 02-25-2003 06:24:22  
That is a great,idea,that is what I wanted to do do for years but never did it..... to old now.....three,things you might want to think about; #1 Roof over hang two feet,"no gutters" to clean,with built in drainage at the base,around the building .A ditch with heavy plastic in the bottm,1" stonewith 4" plastic drain pipe,more stont,up to above ground level..... that ends gutter and water problems.....Think about putting in high cielings (14')....insulate living area good....use space over living area for storage.....put living space with wood floor craw space for water,drain and heat lines....lay block wall,across, shop side of craw space,to keep fumes and gas vapors from creaping along the floor and getting into the living space .....

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Brian G. NY

02-25-2003 07:20:50




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 Re: Re: Morton buildings in reply to Ducknose Bob, 02-25-2003 06:24:22  
I had a 36' X 45' Morton building put up about 8 yrs ago here in upstate NY. It is a fine building. There have been a couple of other companies move into this area since then with similar (but not quite as good) buildings for less money. Like you say, Morton has been in business a long time and they know exactly what they are doing and they guarantee their work. What always impresses me, is the fact that altho they installed large gutters and downspouts that work perfectly, when the snow goes off the roof (slowly or all at once) it never gets caught up on the gutters.I clean the gutters late each fall and I have never had to do any repair work on them at all. There was a lot of fill where the one back corner of the building was to be set so the Morton guys drilled down to virgin soil and used longer poles there to assure they wouldn't move. I like the fact that their "poles" are actually made up of laminated super treated 2" X 6" s which assures that the treatment has penetrated the wood fully. Another nice feature is the "skirt" of short panels they put around the bottom with wood behind it. Not only does this add to the good looks of the building this helps avoid damage where it is most likely to occur and if the panel is "run into" or otherwise damaged, replacement of the short panel rather than a full length sheet of steel is easier and more economical. They have a very good vent system that goes the full length of both the ridge and the eaves with anti bird/varmit screen covering all the openings. I am very satisfied. Before you commit yourself to having a building built by Morton, another Pole building Co., a private contractor or you decide to build it yourself, I would advise looking at other buildings in your area and talking to the respective owners of those buildings. Make notes of all the features you like so you can be sure those features are included in your building specs. Good luck, whatever you decide.

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mike

02-25-2003 15:38:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Morton buildings in reply to Brian G. NY, 02-25-2003 07:20:50  
I put up a morton building in 1998 and really like it. looking at other brand buildings is what sold me on the morton. One thing to keep in mind is that with what ever height building you buy, that is what you get, not the 8" or 10" less because of the truss. I found that by the time you price a different building and and the price difference of the height, overhangs, gutter and down spouts, and the 4'osb board lining around the inside, The other building is not really cheaper. The heavy gauge steel they use is very nice also. Mine building withstood several hail storms with minimal damage. Good luck with your building

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02-25-2003 18:43:34




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Morton buildings in reply to mike, 02-25-2003 15:38:54  
I was with Morton for 20+ years, ,they have good materials but after I left along with several others their quality of workmanship really started to fall. Also you have to watch what they charge. They are on an overage system so they can really stick it to you. I know the inside system. You should be able to get them down on price a bunch. Get a quote on another building and have it with you. If you see jags in the roof steel you will know it is not square. Check columns with a level. To make bonus they will hurry every chance they get.

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