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Anybody use a chainsaw powered sawmill...

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BillWV

02-20-2003 19:35:50




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...like the Alaskan Mark II or any of the Granberg mills? Are they practical or not?
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Bill




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ray

02-23-2003 09:38:30




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 Re: Anybody use a chainsaw powered sawmill... in reply to BillWV, 02-20-2003 19:35:50  
Started off using an alaskan mill on a stihl 090.
Used a ladder as the bar guide initally moved to a c-channel jig later on. Primary use cutting timbers for barn/storage shed building. Used a granberg as well for the second and third cuts. Its a good way to get into milling timbers for your own use. Take time in setup plan last cut first sharp ripping chain and you'll make quality timbers.
I now use a stihl 066 with a 36" bar and a variety of chain types. Also built a bandmill 4-post type,chain mortiser and a log arch recently.

Ray

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ID-Junker

02-22-2003 05:07:20




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 Re: Anybody use a chainsaw powered sawmill... in reply to BillWV, 02-20-2003 19:35:50  
Thought this might be an Idea.

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BillWV

02-22-2003 21:35:48




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 Re: Re: Anybody use a chainsaw powered sawmill... in reply to ID-Junker, 02-22-2003 05:07:20  
That is an excellent web page. I've seen similar mills in Farm Show magazine, maybe it was the same one. Thanks for the link. The dozer is neat.
Bill



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Mike D.

02-21-2003 17:28:24




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 Re: Anybody use a chainsaw powered sawmill... in reply to BillWV, 02-20-2003 19:35:50  
Hello Bill, We have a Granberg mini mill that I cut beams, posts, and rafters with. I bought it to cut 22' rafters. I found that I could cut my
own long rafters much cheaper than I could buy long rafter material. I have cut square edges on red cedar posts that I've used in shed building. I've ripped large beams also. Poplar works good for the rafters, cedar for the posts, oak for the beams (headers). I use a Husqvarna 371XP. It is a little small for any seriuos milling. But if you want to cut a lot of lumber you are better off with something like a bandsaw mill. I have a copy of Malloff's book. It helped some, but nothing like 'hands on'. I got the book long after I had milled enough wood to figure out some of my own tricks. As for siding and 2X4's go with a bandsaw. We are in Va. so our wood will be the same wood you've got. Good luck- Mike

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BillWV

02-22-2003 21:43:20




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 Re: Re: Anybody use a chainsaw powered sawmill... in reply to Mike D., 02-21-2003 17:28:24  
Mike,
Thanks for the advice. I need to build one or two storage sheds or barns for tractors and implements. I friend bought a manual bandsaw mill and buys loads of hemlock from down South. He has built a couple of beautiful buildings, he cut everything except for buying pre-fab trusses. I can't justify a full blown band mill, but will investigate building one. I have to have more room before I get the next tractor.
First I have to fix the damage from last weeks ice storm. We just got power back on Thursday.
Bill

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Deas Plant

02-21-2003 16:08:40




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 Re: Anybody use a chainsaw powered sawmill... in reply to BillWV, 02-20-2003 19:35:50  
I have never used a chainsaw mill but a man I worked for 10 years ago looked into setting one up to cut timber for stockyards from a property that I was clearing for him. It didn't take him very long at all to decide that it was going to be too much like hard work for too little result. He finished up acquiring a twin circular saw portable mill that had power feed on the log bed, both along the travel and across to feed the log in for the next cut.
One saw blade was vertical and the other horizontal so that you did both cuts simultaneously to complete one plank on each pass. The trick was to work your across the top of a log taking off one layer of boards right across the top of the log. you then moved back out to the outer edge of the log and down one board width and started again. If you were good enough with your settings, you could cut practically anything from 1/2 inch square to about 12 inch square and any variation in between. We were loading the logs in with a track loader as it would take up to about 3 feet diameter. We cut a fair bit of timber with that outfit, all good old Australian hardwood. You got a bit of sawdust on you especially if the wind was blowing the wrong way, but it was not what you would call a lot of hard work for little return.
I've watched a couple of chainsaw mills since and man, oh man, am I glad he opted for the portable twin circular saw mill. It worked well.
Happy sawing.
You have a wonderful day. Best wishes. Deas Plant.

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TimV

02-21-2003 14:59:22




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 Re: Anybody use a chainsaw powered sawmill... in reply to BillWV, 02-20-2003 19:35:50  
Bill: The comment below about a chainsaw mill only being useful for packing on horseback pretty much sums it up. I have seen these mills in operation, and they are of strictly limited utility. The kerf (width of cut) is very wide, the lumber is often not straight, and the cut quality is rough. For projects where no better alternative is available, they are better than free-sawing planks by eye, but if you have any quantity of lumber to saw, you will be much better served by buying a portable bandsaw mill. We have owned our Wood-mizer for nearly 20 years, and have sawn uncounted thousands of board feet with it. We originally bought the saw from the factory in Indiana, and the company really knows the meaning of customer service.

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VaTom

02-21-2003 13:26:29




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 Re: Anybody use a chainsaw powered sawmill... in reply to BillWV, 02-20-2003 19:35:50  
Hi Bill,

Quite a few years ago I watched Will Malloff slab a 42" d. 14' walnut log. It took 3 1/2 minutes per pass with a two headed mill that was perfectly sharpened. He used a winch to reel the mill toward him to avoid a lot of the noise and effort. I thought I'd do that when we got some land.

When we did, I found it much more advantageous to bring in a portable mill, Woodmizer is common here, for the 2-3 times per year I want to saw. I figure it costs me at most a quarter/sq ft for the mill and sawyer. Didn't seem reasonable to spend that much money and have it sit when sawing is so cheap. I've sawn 300+ logs. Somebody else maintains the machinery.

Malloff wrote a good book "Chainsaw Lumbermaking", Taunton Press 1982, that I understand is out of print. As I recall, he didn't recommend buying a mill. If you decide to give it a try, see if you can find a copy and check out the milling list on Yahoo. Some of them are having fun but it's not serious lumber-making unless you approach it like Malloff did. His reasoning was that he avoided having to move the huge trees that he was milling. With a helper all they had to pick up was one board at a time and throw it on the truck. No other machinery. If you have a tractor, a band mill makes a lot of sense.

Good luck.

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ID-Junker

02-21-2003 07:55:02




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 Re: Anybody use a chainsaw powered sawmill... in reply to BillWV, 02-20-2003 19:35:50  
Only thing thay are good for is packing them in on horse back to a REMOTE location. Lot work for a little lumber. My 2cents



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Robert in W. Mi.

02-21-2003 05:45:06




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 Re: Anybody use a chainsaw powered sawmill... in reply to BillWV, 02-20-2003 19:35:50  
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All of those guys died at a young age from being overworked!! :>) Just kidding, below is where they all hang out. I've done it, but it's way too slow, wastefull and painfull for me, and besides by the time you add up all you'll "end up with" you might as well buy a Norwood Lumbermate, and have something that will get the job done. The picture is of my Lumbermate. Robert

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