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Junkman

01-30-2003 19:19:18




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Does anyone out there know anything about waste oil burners? I am looking for an information source. I need info so I can make an informed decision before rushing into any decisions. Thanks




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John R

01-31-2003 19:19:54




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 Re: Kagi waste oil burners in reply to Junkman, 01-30-2003 19:19:18  
I started with a kit from Benjamin Aviation. Heated my shop real well but you could not leave it alone. You had to be there to keep it adjusted all the time. I needed to keep the shop warm overnight, so I started looking for a commercial unit. Bought a fully self contained unit from Lanair Corp. in Janesville Wi. Have had very little problems in three years running. It is basically "set and forget". As with any oil heater monthly maintenance is required, but it only takes me 5 minutes to clean burner head and then forget it for 30 days. Check them out at www.lanair.com. Good service dept. and happy to answer any questions. I live in central Il. and got parts overnight. I needed a spring for the igniter contact. That is the only repair I have made. I have a screen and water remover between the heater tank and my storage tank. Have only had to clean oil filter screen on the heater twice in three years. I burn about 1300 gallons a year,and the only cost I have is the electricity to run the fan ect. Would have that cost anyway. I keep the shop 50 to 70 degrees all the time. I would buy another one if I ever needed to. The only easy and inexpensive way to heat.

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Larry806

01-31-2003 18:48:57




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 Re: Kagi waste oil burners in reply to Junkman, 01-30-2003 19:19:18  
I have a Clean Burn and can't say enough good about it!!!!! I've heated my shop that's 40 by 54 14 ft high for 8 years with no problem at all I use 300 gal totes to store oil in and never use out of one till it settles for a week than the only time I have to adjust the burner is about every 3 weeks when I change totes I'm now building a furnace for the house & buying another Clean burn gun for it. They can be adjusted from 14000 btu to 350,000 very quickly ( about 20 secs ) Larry

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David - OR

01-31-2003 11:00:22




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 Re: Kagi waste oil burners in reply to Junkman, 01-30-2003 19:19:18  
Waste oil has several problems as a heating fuel source. Contaminants and variable viscosity are the most obvious.

There are many vendors of these heaters. Reznor seems to be the most common around here. Check around gas stations and airport maintenance hangars, and I'll bet Reznor is what you'll find.

Anecdotal reports say that many of the commercial burners need more tuning and maintenance than #2 fuel oil home furnaces, regardless of the vendor.

A good water elimination and filter arrangement should be an absolute requirement with these, especially if the waste oil tank is open for all to use.

The various vendors universally provide pre-heating of waste oil. Some provide injected compressed air for improved atomization. Some provide constant flow pumps, instead of pressure regulated. Kagi touts his air-accumulator soft-start feature, which I've not seen elsewhere. But he doesn't talk about the other features. Are they needed? Perhaps not, if you try to keep the viscosity in the feed tank reasonably balanced, and not varying wildly from kerosene one day to 90W-120 crankcase oil the next. Keep the feed tank cut with 50 % #2 diesel, and probably all of them will work better, and still save you (some) money.


Most home fuel oil burners have flame retention tubes. Is stainless steel necessary? I doubt it.

A lot depends on your tolerance for fiddling with it, who fills the waste oil tank, the variability of the incoming waste oil stream, and who maintains the system when it breaks.

If you want it to be "plug it in and forget it", better check on the service capabilities of the seller or the local reps.

If you are willing to tweak it, perhaps every time you change the mix in the waste oil tank, then probably any of them will work OK.

By the way, many of the people that have actually built the "Mother Earth" burner say they've gone back to dripping waste oil on the woodstove fire, in disgust over the constand fiddling with the "mother's burner".

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Ag-lad

01-31-2003 20:52:38




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 Re: Re: Kagi waste oil burners in reply to David - OR, 01-31-2003 11:00:22  
I was just on the verge of starting to build a "mother's" burner, but with reading your post, I am now a little hesitant. I would like to hear other's comments and experiences on this type of heater. Thanks



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Skinner

02-02-2003 06:49:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Kagi waste oil burners in reply to Ag-lad, 01-31-2003 20:52:38  
Mother's Heater works well, for someone that only needs around 30,000 BTU. The hardest part we found was to keep the oil dripping at the right speed, but again, we get used oil that has anything and everything in it.



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Richard Fazio

01-31-2003 08:54:08




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 Re: Kagi waste oil burners in reply to Junkman, 01-30-2003 19:19:18  
Are you going to buy one or do you want to build one? I'm building one now. There is a good site that talks a lot about these homebuilt burners Link



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