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kjm

01-25-2003 08:32:24




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Does any body know of a site that will alow me to design my own shop without buying their plans? Will be about a 40 x 60 x 14 ,I want to play around with the floor plan. Thanks, Kevin




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Farmered

01-26-2003 21:58:23




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 Re: o.t. new shop in reply to kjm, 01-25-2003 08:32:24  
Remember that doors are never to big. We thought that 22 foot wide doors were big enough 10 years ago. WRONG! Now we can't get our big combine in with the header on. Also check to see that overhead doors will not interfere with the use of track mounted hoists etc. when they are up.Just a few cents worth. Ed



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Brian A.

01-26-2003 13:03:31




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 Re: o.t. new shop in reply to kjm, 01-25-2003 08:32:24  
I am in the process of building a new shop myself and thought I would share some of what I did;
a) made paper cutouts to scale for everything that was to go into shop and laid it out on a large blueprint to make sure it all fit.
b) met with the zoning dept. to make sure what limitations they had for structures in my district and worked within them.
c) took the final material list to several suppliers for bid, there was about 15% difference between highest and lowest.

Some of the features I wound up putting into my shop;
a) a full second story over part of it, lots cheaper than more ground level storage,
b) instead of leveling grade for whole building, worked with the existing 4' elevation change to have two levels,
c) this allowed a four foot deep stairwell/work pit in the upper garage area, and
d) a 4' high loading ramp to the outside in the lower floor area,
e) the floors are 6" thick, 4500 lbs mix, with wire reinforcing and PEX tubing for radiant heat,
f) for a few dollars extra, the trusses have an 8" energy 'heel' for extra insulation (a 12" energy heel around here increases truss cost by at least 30%),
g) there are four anchor points around the work pit/stairwell with 3/8" chain hooked over rebar inbedded into the concrete.

This is all in a building of about 2000 square foot ground level, with an additional 1000 square feet of second story storage. It is built with convential stud framing, a shingle roof, vinyl siding and sits on a convential footing with block foundation walls just like a house. So far I have about $25K into it, without the wiring or insulation, and am figuring about $30K when finished, or about $15/square feet of ground level space.

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nate

01-25-2003 18:09:53




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 Re: o.t. new shop in reply to kjm, 01-25-2003 08:32:24  
if you are looking for someone who can give you a 3-D look of your frame drawing and quote you a building Email me and I can get you hooked up



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Larry806

01-25-2003 17:36:19




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 Re: o.t. new shop in reply to kjm, 01-25-2003 08:32:24  
Hi mind some imput I always wished I had hot water heat in the floor I would also make a couple heavy boxes with chain poured in the floor sometimes I could use them to hold things down while I jack it straight remember it's never big enough! and when your over 40 you can't get enough light one other thing put a extra door in it there is always something in the way when you only have 1 door just things to think about How much time will you be spending in it? I have a used oil furnace that heats mine cheaply but I go through about 2500 gal of used oil a year Larry806

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kjm

01-25-2003 20:00:36




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 Re: Re: o.t. new shop in reply to Larry806, 01-25-2003 17:36:19  
Larry, I am planning to plumb for hot water floor heat,but I also have a 250,00 btu used oil heater. I don`t want to take all day to warm it up! Thanks, Kevin



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Mark

01-27-2003 18:54:00




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 Re: Re: Re: o.t. new shop in reply to kjm, 01-25-2003 20:00:36  
Do yourself a favor, insulate with blue board under the slab, and insulate the building well. Leave the floor heat on all the winter. It's just as cheap then as running a big hot air furnace when you want to work, and much quieter.



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T_Bone

01-25-2003 15:53:30




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 Re: o.t. new shop in reply to kjm, 01-25-2003 08:32:24  
Hi kjm,

I've been thinking about not adding any side windows at all, add two doors at either end for cross ventalation and add glass sky lights in the roof.

This sure would add more light and keep the theives to a minmium. I leave my shop for 6 months at a time so thats my main concern.

T_Bone



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kjm

01-25-2003 20:10:24




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 Re: Re: o.t. new shop in reply to T_Bone, 01-25-2003 15:53:30  
T-Bone ,I will put in windows on the west side, doors on the N & S maybe the the w side with a 15ft shed on the e side most of my equipment has spent too many years out side already. The last shed I built was a 30x40x10 with skylights that leaked every time it rained. Thanks for the reply, Kevin



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Uncle

01-25-2003 14:58:32




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 Re: o.t. new shop in reply to kjm, 01-25-2003 08:32:24  
kjm, Are you looking for a floor plan for placeing welder, grinding equipment etc? If so I believe you would be better off measuring your equipment and providing the proper distance from the door and so on, where you would want it.I just built a shop and did not measure how much room I had between the big door and the window on the side, and ran out of room for the drill press. Had to move it on the other side of the window which is away from my water dunk tank for cooling drilled or welded metals. If any thing draw your floor plan out on a large sheet of paper for say a 40in by 60in use blocks of wood representing your welder,cutting torch,floor grinder, length of bench,then you can move the euipment around until you think you got it right, you know what I mean. Each person has different equipment therefore a boughten floor plan will not work for any given individual. Plans for a shop is more important as plans for a house, cause you will have more fun in the shop, and can be more profitable.

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kjm

01-25-2003 20:19:35




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 Re: Re: o.t. new shop in reply to Uncle, 01-25-2003 14:58:32  
Uncle,I need to place two in ground hoists, With the length of these trucks these days I want to put them in a line, one for the front and one for the rear plus all the rest,benches welder oil tank, press and the of my stuff that has been in storage sence we moved out here. Thanks for the thoughts, Kevin



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deadeye

01-25-2003 14:48:45




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 Re: o.t. new shop in reply to kjm, 01-25-2003 08:32:24  
Try going to a Menards Lumber Store. They have a machine you can do that with.



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kjm

01-25-2003 20:27:20




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 Re: Re: o.t. new shop in reply to deadeye, 01-25-2003 14:48:45  
Deadeye, I never thought of Menards, the nearst one is abought 75 miles away in Burlington IA, I may drive up there after Church Sunday. Thanks ,Kevin



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