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Ben in KY

01-09-2003 20:01:05




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I have a propane cutting rig. OXY tank, cutting torch with propane tip, OXY requlator, but no propane tank or regulator. I need information on what regulator to use and what pressure to run. I inherited this rig and have never used propane for cutting. Any advice is appreciated.

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Ben in KY

01-10-2003 17:58:38




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 Re: Cutting with propane in reply to Ben in KY, 01-09-2003 20:01:05  
Thanks to all for the information, After reading these replies and checking the archives ( DUH should have thought of that ) I believe I have enough information to get going with propane.



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Dennis Benson

01-10-2003 11:20:37




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 Re: Cutting with propane in reply to Ben in KY, 01-09-2003 20:01:05  
I'm planning to switch from acetylene to propane, and the information on here is very helpful, and I also asked Lincoln Electric, they make my torch, they told me to use an acetylene regulator, and for the cutting torch to buy a tip for propane, but use the same brazing tip for either propane or oxygen. I like the propane being a lot cheaper, and more readily available at almost any gas station or grocery store, just switch tanks.

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Jerry B

01-10-2003 07:42:08




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 Re: Cutting with propane in reply to Ben in KY, 01-09-2003 20:01:05  
I have used propane for cutting and the oly thing I don't like about it is the fact that you can hardly see the flame. Propane burns so cleanly there is hardly any visible signs of burning. I had to place the flame next to the metal in order to watch the flame as I set the oxygen valve.

Jerry B (also In KY)



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Rod MI

01-09-2003 22:45:49




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 Re: Cutting with propane in reply to Ben in KY, 01-09-2003 20:01:05  
How dues propane work for welding and brazing? I been told you can weld with propane from some people and others say you can’t sow has anyone welded with it and what do you think of it thanks



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george md

01-10-2003 13:35:58




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 Re: Re: Cutting with propane in reply to Rod MI, 01-09-2003 22:45:49  
Rod , propane cuts as good or better than acet, also works well with large heating tips ( # 12 ) , will work with some smaller brazing tips ( but not well ). the flame is way to dirty to weld , apearently too much OX in the flame , makes an oxidized weld that is not strong

george



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Thanks

01-11-2003 12:55:12




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 Re: Re: Re: Cutting with propane in reply to george md, 01-10-2003 13:35:58  
Thanks



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george md

01-09-2003 22:35:24




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 Re: Cutting with propane in reply to Ben in KY, 01-09-2003 20:01:05  
Ben, An acetylene regulator works fine , if not the proper thread, adapters are available.

Depending on how big a fire you need , set pressure 5 to 12 pounds.

Much easier to light fire with some OX turned on.

george



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Tim B

01-09-2003 21:16:46




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 Re: Cutting with propane in reply to Ben in KY, 01-09-2003 20:01:05  
Ben,

Do a search on this BB for "propane" about a year ago there were great, long discussions about the pros and cons of propane vs. acetylene, a wealth of information from TBone and another knowledgeable welder; Mark somebody, I thing (don't see his name in a recent post, and others. Just read those threads; you'll probably have all the info you need.

good luck



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Slowpoke

01-10-2003 00:20:47




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 Re: Re: Cutting with propane in reply to Tim B, 01-09-2003 21:16:46  
Maybe it's Mark from the 'Mark Kw's Inside Tools' site. I think he's a welder.



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T_Bone

01-10-2003 21:45:19




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 Re: Re: Re: Cutting with propane in reply to Slowpoke, 01-10-2003 00:20:47  
Hi Ben,

Propane/Oxy(4600*f) burns cooler than Acet/Oxy (5600*f) and takes longer to preheat the weld/cut area. Most users will then use a larger amount of gas to raise the preheat temp as it takes too much time vs Oxy/Acet. This will cause most base metals to over heat creating a carbon slag on the surface or burn the base metal. Don't rush the cut.

Welding with LP/Oxy is very noticable slower and most times requires a larger flame tip size when comparred to Acet/Oxy to complete the same job. This creates a wider heatzone in the base matal causing warpage or effecting other objects. This really is critical when welding thin metal and is a major area where Acet/Oxy can't be beat.

Since propane is sold as liquid, you need a high pressure regulator to vaporize LP into to a gas then regulate that gas pressure. Over time LP will build up oils (looks just like vasiline) inside the supply line and can if the ambient temp is warm enough the oils will collect in one low spot plugging the line. This is not a problem in most areas but can and does happen in AZ where the summer ambient temps are very warm and is a problem to RV's in the summer time. What happens is the oils become heated to a liquid state over a long length of hose then runs to a low spot in the hose pooling then cools causing the vasiline plug.

T_Bone

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JerePa

01-09-2003 20:45:55




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 Re: Cutting with propane in reply to Ben in KY, 01-09-2003 20:01:05  
At your local welding supply dealer you can buy a propane regulator & they can tell you what pressure to use to start. Works just as well as acytelene.



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Andy

01-10-2003 06:54:50




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 Re: Re: Cutting with propane in reply to JerePa, 01-09-2003 20:45:55  
Make sure you specify what fuel you are running when you buy your hose. When I bought mine I was told there is a difference and I ended up buyin all fuel hose.



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