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Steve B

01-05-2003 17:03:54




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Does anyone have a cure for condensation in the shop? I have unisulated pole barn w/ slab floor and vapor barrier under that. My problem is condensation on all of my precious tools. Seems anything metal is wet. I use a kero redi-heater to warm up when I'm out there. I do not keep the shop warm all the time, I'm only out there a couple hours every other day. I sprayed everything w/ WD40, but theres got to be a better way. Any Ideas?

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JDGnut

01-10-2003 21:25:22




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 Re: Tool Condensation problems in reply to Steve B, 01-05-2003 17:03:54  
WE have the same problem on damp nights.. U can look under the tractors and U would think the radiators were leaking.. but if U look close the metal on the tractors is just dripping wet... We have started insulating the to help with the temp difference... On the wet nights we leave a small box fan (about 2x2ft) running in the shop blowing in the direction of the tractors... it will help a lot, just to keep the air circulating...
Good Luck
JDGnut

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Farmered

01-08-2003 01:51:15




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 Re: Tool Condensation problems in reply to Steve B, 01-05-2003 17:03:54  
Years ago I had a shop in WNY (a former Ford garage) with the worst possible combination. It was an uninsulated metal building with unvented natural gas radiant heaters. With certain temperature changes it would literally RAIN in there. I solved the situation by selling the property. Ed



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RWK in WI

01-06-2003 06:01:15




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 Re: Tool Condensation problems in reply to Steve B, 01-05-2003 17:03:54  
Think about it this way. The products of combustion when your are heating are carbon-dixoide and water vapor. If I remember correctly, for every gallon of fuel burned you are creating close to a gallon of evaporated water. As the building and your tools cool this water vapor condenses.
At one place I have to work, after finishing for the day they open doors on both sides of the building and let the wind blow through taking out all the warm damp air. The machinery doesn't cool as fast, so when they close the doors in about a hour, the place stays dry. It might be worth a try.

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Scottey841

01-05-2003 20:44:47




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 Re: Tool Condensation problems in reply to Steve B, 01-05-2003 17:03:54  
I used to work where they would have the heat off at night and in the morning they would fire up big propane heaters and the tools would sweat. We installed a furnace and kept it between 40 and 45 at night and then turned up the heat when we were in the shop. The tools stopped rusting. I am sure you don't want to heat your entire shed though. Maybe build a small tool room inside the shed. It would be good for security reasons too.

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Sure Cure, and it's cheap!

01-05-2003 19:14:46




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 Re: Tool Condensation problems in reply to Steve B, 01-05-2003 17:03:54  
Find somebody scrapping a mobile home who will sell you the old furnace. I put a Miller 80,000 BTU furnace from a 12 by 50 mobile in my 20 by 28 shop, and it can get nice and toasty there. Best part is combustion by products do not go into the shop, so no moisture introduced to freeze and condense. You will need to put a stand under the furnace, with a piece of sheet metal under it on an angle to direct the hot air away from the furnace. Most of these are set up to force the hot air under the trailer thru floor ducting. If your shop is as drafty as mine you won't need to run a separate combustion air duct. Check with your local heating contractors on how to run a chimney if you don't already know... codes differ there. I use 3-5 gallons of Kero a day to keep the shop above freezing here in upstate NY. I used to use propane top hat heaters, and a kero salamander, and all my stuff was getting rusty. After seven years of that it is like being in heaven. I might even get something done out there this winter. I paid $200 for my furnace, with a tank and 85 gallons of fuel. You might have to pay a little more this time of year. Good luck finding one!
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ajco

01-05-2003 18:34:43




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 Re: Tool Condensation problems in reply to Steve B, 01-05-2003 17:03:54  
An old fridge with a small light bulb wired to stay on works.



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Skinner

01-05-2003 17:52:56




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 Re: Tool Condensation problems in reply to Steve B, 01-05-2003 17:03:54  
I've had it happen a couple of times to me. I would open the door in the morning and everything was soaked. Is it the dew point? Both times it happened to me there was no heat involved before it happened.



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jim

01-05-2003 18:11:42




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 Re: Re: Tool Condensation problems in reply to Skinner, 01-05-2003 17:52:56  
I had a similar problem a few years ago and found that having a good sized fan running along the roof-line really helped.



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fredo

01-05-2003 18:09:39




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 Re: Re: Tool Condensation problems in reply to Skinner, 01-05-2003 17:52:56  
build a metal box big enough to hold your tools, put some kind of heating device in it. small light bulb with thermastat. works in mich.
fredo



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