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Tom H

12-19-2002 09:13:35




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I am looking for some sound advice on air compressors. My wife has finally broken down and has agreed to get me one for XMAS. Now the tough part, which one.

My uses will be running impact wrench, polisher, sander, ratchet, and possibly some painting. I'm strictly "home use" although I have 2 pieces of heavy equipment (backhoe and bulldozer) which I do all my own maintenance ( or at least try).

All opinions/help are/is appreciated!!

Tom

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Ron

12-20-2002 06:46:04




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 Re: Air Compressor in reply to Tom H, 12-19-2002 09:13:35  
You will THANK yourself a Million times, if you spend a few more dollars and get a 2-stage 175# compressor... Impacts work 100% better on 175....after-all you expect to get results, when you pull the trigger on that impact...!!!! 125 won't really get it done, when you REALLY NEED it DONE...!!! 2-stage is much more efficient at pumping, and there are some real good deals on them...



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john niolon

12-20-2002 05:44:49




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 Re: Air Compressor in reply to Tom H, 12-19-2002 09:13:35  
can't offer much for a recommendation, I'm using a 20 year old Quincy...with a 100 gal tank... best I've ever seen...

for your plumbing ...check out the Tip Equipment site... they have an excellent plan..

Link

john



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Slowpoke

12-19-2002 19:03:26




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 Re: Air Compressor in reply to Tom H, 12-19-2002 09:13:35  
Go back to Dec. 16, 17, 18 posts on this board to see a lot more advice on air compressors.



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Scott V

12-19-2002 17:19:39




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 Re: Air Compressor in reply to Tom H, 12-19-2002 09:13:35  
Tom,go to a real air compressor shop.Where they sell true 5hp compressor.Look around,ask questions.Also talk to the guy that works on them if posible.Here is what to look for,cast iron pump,two stage,a decent electric motor that turns 1750 rpm,slow pump speed around 800 rpm,mag starter,80 gal tank.I picked a curtis triple,and got a great deal also.There is lots of good brands so don't limit your self to what a store like home depot or clones sells.Most guys at a good compressor shop know more about air compressors than you will need to know.If you follow what I said you will get a very good compressor.

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big red 460 diesel

12-19-2002 16:35:53




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 Re: Air Compressor in reply to Tom H, 12-19-2002 09:13:35  
go with a ingersol rand 80 gallon there the best i love mine.



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gene

12-19-2002 16:07:28




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 Re: Air Compressor in reply to Tom H, 12-19-2002 09:13:35  
just like everyone else said get the biggest you can afford, or your wife will let you get. do not get a oilless, buy a cast V model 2 stage. with at least a 80 tank. i have twin 80's on mine but i run alot of air equipment on mine. an do quite a bit of sandblasting. you will want to run hard pipe in your shop with alot of drops then a water seperater at the tank an then again at the outlet you are goin to use. you can never have enough of the outlets. just make sure you put a drop before each outlet. you will want to have your hard pipe running slitely downhill toward the end of the hard line. the higher you run the pressure the more water you will get. i run 140 an i get alot of water. sorry got off the subject. i like campbell hausefield. they have always been good to me. johndeeregene

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Ed

12-19-2002 12:07:38




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 Re: Air Compressor in reply to Tom H, 12-19-2002 09:13:35  
For occasional use I got one of those Craftsman pancake compressors from Sears that goes up to 150 psi - the black one.

Other then it cycling a lot it works great with my impact wrench and is portable. If I was using it all day it would definatly not be the right choice.



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Nolan

12-19-2002 11:48:54




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 Re: Air Compressor in reply to Tom H, 12-19-2002 09:13:35  
The few horsepower portable units seem rather neat, until you go to really work with one. They've certainly got enough pressure to spin an impact wrench, but not enough air to keep on pounding. So you take lots of breaks waiting for the tank to refill. If you can, I'd suggest plumbing the house with an air line and leaving the tank stationary somewhere.

I would suggest not getting an oil-less compressor. They cost a good bit more, and don't deliver the air anywhere near as well as the standard type compressor does. An in-line oil seperator would do better, imo.

220 does better then 110 for heavy motors, and by and large, a decent compressor motor is a heavy motor. At 110 volts, you'll be drawing a lot of amps, and probably frequently blowing the circuit breaker, as well as possibly overloading the wiring.

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buck

12-19-2002 11:26:32




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 Re: Air Compressor in reply to Tom H, 12-19-2002 09:13:35  

Think of the compressor as the heart of your shop and think big big tank 80gal+ big slow pump twin v cast iron and big motor 5 or 6 hp. with the equipment you have sooner or later you going to want a large impact 3/4 or 1". On painting the bigger the pump and the slower it turns the less heat you build so painting problems are greatly reduced at compressor purchase. Money spent here along with future purchase of low cost tools(less cost than electric)will be returned in a short period of time. As a big bonus the air tools are much safer in most shop environments. I personally use an old sanburn(about 25yrs.) and the only time it lets me down is during long periods of sandblasting which I hate with a passion so I don't do it except as a last resort.Merry Christmas

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JoeK

12-19-2002 10:48:15




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 Re: Air Compressor in reply to Tom H, 12-19-2002 09:13:35  
A question with a thousand answers and opinions.
Mine follow-
-Buy as big(HP&Tank)as you can afford and run.
-Single stage(125psi)adequate for most usage
-5-6Hp units delivering appx 10cfm@90psi will adequately handle MOST tasks including hobbyist sandblasting with small gun.
-Think about tools before buying,air operated is not always better.Air drills,disc&straightline sanders,polishers gobble vast amounts of air volume.Most single stage compressors will not keep up with them.Electric is often much more efficient in these tools.
-I stay away from "oil-less" direct drive compressors.From my experience,they tend to be very noisy,and appear to have problems manufacturers have yet to work out.-
My mainline at present is a 6hp/80gal Cast Iron single stage Campbell Hausfield which I use for general shop uses and occaisional sandblasting,both siphon and pressure,and cabinet.
"Backup is an old Sanborn 2Hpx20gal portable which used to perform same duties but not well."
"AND Backup backup is an ancient 1940s Devilbiss ex-military 1/2hpx30gal,refurbished and restored.Its a pet,cuz I luv that old pukka,pukka,pukka,pukka,pukka sound...lol"

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kraig WY

12-19-2002 09:54:58




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 Re: Air Compressor in reply to Tom H, 12-19-2002 09:13:35  
Get a Sears Craftsman Tool catalog, go to the air tool section, there is a chart there that tells you the requirements for each tool. Use this chart, and your tool requirement, to determine the type and size of compresser you need. Better to go too big then small.



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PD

12-20-2002 07:51:14




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 Re: Re: Air Compressor in reply to kraig WY, 12-19-2002 09:54:58  
I use an old single stage Quincy set to 125 psi. I find air tools last longer run at a lower pressure. The thing weighs a ton, is ten horsepower and runs just dandy on single phase 220. 120 gallon tank and about 40 cfm. There is no air tool invented that will even work it hard, (possible exceptions are a jack hammer and industrial sand blaster, neither of which I own). I have a bead blasting cabinet, the usual air tools, and a small sand blaster. Even an air file or polisher are no challenge for this old Quincy. Campbell-Hausfeld and the like are garbage. At minimun, I would recommend an oil-lubed Ingersol, but even they are no match for a Quincy. Spend the money, get a Quincy, maintain it, and never have to worry about getting another compressor for the rest of your life. New Quincy compressors start at about $5000 around here, so they are pricey. Mine has pressure lube, oil pressure gauge and an oil filter. They run extremely quiet and can be rebuilt like a car motor. Many times exchange units are available, so down time is minimized. Real heavy-duty industrial compressors. But, I guarantee you will never regret getting a Quincy, even an old used one like mine. BTW...I have around $3000 in mine, including rebuilding the compressor,(it had be run in a body shop without an air filter), new motor and a fancy paint job. Best money I ever spent. Good luck. Regards..... ..P

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Quincy On-Line

12-20-2002 15:27:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Air Compressor in reply to PD, 12-20-2002 07:51:14  

This website has lower prices on Quincy.

http://www.bobstools.net/Store/Quincy.html



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PD

12-21-2002 09:13:11




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Air Compressor in reply to Quincy On-Line, 12-20-2002 15:27:37  
Thank you for adding information that I should have included in my previous post. I, too, considered on-line purchasing, but, with freight costs what they are, and my love of tinkering, I bought a used Quincy and "restored" it. Here in the Great Desert Southwest, Quincy prices are as I stated---high!! In the Midwest, I could have done considerably better, but I needed one fairly quickly and, again, freight costs added to the price of the compressor made going the online route less attractive. I understand that some of the lower priced Quincy units have splash oiling rather than pressure oiling. Is this accurate? If so, I feel I got the better compressor, and I have never been disappointed with it. Thanks again and regards..... ..PD

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Quincy On-Line

12-23-2002 18:31:27




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Air Compressor in reply to PD, 12-21-2002 09:13:11  

PD,

Order over $500 have free shipping! I am considering ordering one from bobstools.

http://www.bobstools.net/Store/Quincy.html



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