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Nat

12-16-2002 16:32:53

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thought I would pass on a little tip I have used for years on tilt trailers, to make a tough, rattle free hinge use catergory 2 drawbar ends for hinges. A single axle tilt6ft.X 12 ft.is perfect for hauling an N ford,B/C allis. M/40/420 JD, cub/A IH. ect. may pay back some of the many tips I see here daily. Merry Christmas, Nat

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Slowpoke

12-16-2002 20:38:30

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Re: tilt trailer in reply to Nat, 12-16-2002 16:32:53

Nat, good tip but do you mean the pins that fit on the equipment or the ball ends on the tractor lift arms? Or both? I have an old factory made tilt trailer,8x18, but can't remember the tilt setup. It takes about 70 lbs to tilt.

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Nat

12-17-2002 04:34:42

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Re: Re: tilt trailer in reply to Slowpoke , 12-16-2002 20:38:30

I use the weld on ends and the pins that are made for them

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Slowpoke

12-16-2002 20:22:34

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Re: tilt trailer in reply to Nat, 12-16-2002 16:32:53

Nat, good tip but do you mean the pins that fit on the equipment or the ball ends on the tractor lift arms? Or both? I thought a single axle was too light to move an 8N.

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mark ct

12-17-2002 05:15:03

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Re: Re: tilt trailer in reply to Slowpoke , 12-16-2002 20:22:34

a heavy duty single axle is not too light at all for moving an N. the n weighs under 3500 lbs and most construction type trailer axles are around 6000lbs rating.

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Nolan

12-17-2002 18:30:29

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Re: Re: Re: tilt trailer in reply to mark ct, 12-17-2002 05:15:03

Lots of folks have gotten the strange notion that double axle trailers somehow balance a load better and will never tip fore or aft. Which isn't the case at all.

Something that often times gets overlooked is the manueverability advantage a single axle trailer has over the double axle. A single axle trailer doesn't try to track itself and fight the pulling vehicle the way a multipe axle trailer does.

I've got a single axle trailer with a 7500 lb axle. I can handle an N, and a whole lot more.

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Nat

12-17-2002 09:11:46

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Re: Re: Re: tilt trailer in reply to mark ct, 12-17-2002 05:15:03

Mark is correct, I use 6000 lb Dexter axles, never had any problems

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Slowpoke

12-17-2002 21:12:02

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Re: Re: Re: Re: tilt trailer in reply to Nat, 12-17-2002 09:11:46

Are you guys making your own trailers? I know Dexter axles are available at trailer supply stores; are they used on factory trailers, too ? I recently purchased a 16' wood deck, two axle car/utility trailer with 7000lbs gross capacity. I moved several tractors with the heaviest being a WD45, and a couple of small cars. Then I got a Case 801B weighing 7000+lbs and had to rent a 9900lb equipment trailer.
I was thinking about adding a third 3500lb axle to my trailer and doubling the side rails to make 10500lbs. Of course, moving the existing axles slightly is necessary. The coupler is rated at 10000lbs and the jack at 5000. The trailer is a NewCentury and I'm unable to find them on the Net. Does anyone know their address? Anybody want to comment on the conversion idea?

Slowpoke

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Nat

12-18-2002 09:37:03

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: tilt trailer in reply to Slowpoke, 12-17-2002 21:12:02

Slowpoke, I have made probably 50-75 trailers over the last 30 years. Most have been 16' x 6'4" tandem trailer , with a lot of 6' x 12' tilt beds. I use 6" chanel for frames,tongue and 3x3 angle for cross members on tandems, and 4" chanel for frames and tongues, and 2x2 for cross members on6x12 tilt. I use 6000# dexter axles on either. have made many 8x20 tri-axles using 8' chanel for frame and tongue and 4' chanel for cross members, using the same 6000# axles. I have hauled backhoes and 350 JD crawlers many miles, the problems have been very few, but I pay attention to what I'm doing, maybe that is the secret, LOL, Nat

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James

12-22-2002 13:06:56

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: tilt trailer in reply to Nat, 12-18-2002 09:37:03

What is your approximate material cost for a 7'x16' flat trailer?

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Nat

12-22-2002 14:52:40

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: tilt trailer in reply to James, 12-22-2002 13:06:56

sorry, I hadn't seen post or would have replied earlier, I am looking in my check register, her'sthe entry for a 6' x12' tilt including weld on ends and pins. 192.38 also includes40' of 1"x1" tubing for one of my sons projects. steel for a 6'4" x16' would be pretty close. last axles from northern 189.00,tires and wheels I get localy 65.00 ea

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Nolan

12-18-2002 07:59:43

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: tilt trailer in reply to Slowpoke, 12-17-2002 21:12:02

I've made my latest trailer from another abandoned boat trailer. I personally tend to like them because of the galvanization; keeps them stronger for longer. Boat trailers can be had for free by looking for them. I'll probably keep this one because it's so strong. The frame is about 3x6" square tubing, about 1/4" thick, with very heavy galvanization. 26' long as I recall. Had a bunch of scrap oak that I made the deck out of. The trailer isn't light, but it sure handles a load!

If you want a lighter trailer (not suitable for towing tractors on) look for dead campers in back of peoples houses. They too are available for free.

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T_Bone

12-18-2002 09:13:50

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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: tilt trailer in reply to Nolan, 12-18-2002 07:59:43

Hi Slowpoke,

I just bought a 26ft flatbed tri-axle and so far I'm not impressed. You can reverse torque the hitch even tho the trailer is loaded correct. If you move the load forward to react to the revese torque it still can reverse torque when traveling on uneven ground and I'm not talking about ruff terrain either.

Another pitfall to consider is, alot of tri-axles have pintel hitch with surge brakes. The surge brake couplers are only rated for 2000lbs to 3000lbs of vertical load depending on the brand of coupler. This means you can overload the coupler but still be with-in GVW of the trailer.

So far I have not found a load sweet spot like single and tandum axle trailers have.

I haven't given up on this trailer,"yet", but a dual tandum is looking better all the time.

T_Bone

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