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Skinner

12-07-2002 19:31:48

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There was a discussion a few topics back discussing the type of diesel to burn in the Reddy Heaters. I burn pump grade diesel in mine without any problems but exactly what grade would automotive pump diesel be in South Texas? I assume it's #1 and Farm Diesel would be #2? Is that correct?

Kerosene is about 3.50 a gallon here and even though is smells a little better, the diesel doesn't put off that many fumes and is allot cheaper.

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david

12-08-2002 14:45:17

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Re: Grades of Diesel in reply to Skinner, 12-07-2002 19:31:48

#1, kerosene or diesel comes off the cracking tower in the high distillate range. Only difference in K-1 and D-1 are additives for injection systems in D-1, otherwise it is kerosene.

#2 comes off the middle distillate tap at the refinery. It naturally is high in sulfur. #2 taken at this point has dye added to show it is for off road use (also has fuel system additives). The dye will vary in color depending on what taxes have been paid on the fuel (red for farm and construction). #2 for highway use is run through a catalyst (varies to refinery) which removes almost all the sulfur. This removes some of the energy from each gallon of fuel, lowering BTU content. It also results in a much dryer fuel. Fuel additives are them applied. Both on road and off road diesel is #2 sold in continental US. It is winterized in most of the US this time of year with varying amounts of D-1 added (as little as 10% to as much as 49%, depending on latitude).

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Ludwig

12-08-2002 06:01:57

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Re: Grades of Diesel in reply to Skinner, 12-07-2002 19:31:48

I'd be some surprised if you ever got much into #1 diesel. I mean, how cold does it get in South Texas?
#1 is for cold weather its cut with kero and some places add an anti-gel
#2 is standard diesel
Up here we call farm diesel "Offroad" as in "For offroad vehicles only" like it says on the pumps.

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Slowpoke

12-07-2002 20:28:47

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Re: Grades of Diesel in reply to Skinner, 12-07-2002 19:31:48

And I thought $2.15 a gallon for kerosene was too high here in 'Northern California'. Road diesel is $1.50-$1.65 at local gas stations. Remember when gas was a quarter and kero was even less?

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John Ne.

12-08-2002 20:20:42

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Re: Re: Grades of Diesel in reply to Slowpoke, 12-07-2002 20:28:47

The thing I can't figure is when gas was selling for 22 cents back in the 60s, diesel was 15 cents and kerosene was about 12 cents,,, nowadays diesel is always ten to fifteen cents higher than regular gas? or is in Nebraska. Also here now for Ag Use, diesel has a dye in it. If your on the road truck is caught with that fuel, which doesn't have road tax paid on it, ouch, big fines. Even a truck with farm plates two miles from home, they gotcha. John in Nebraska

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Ludwig

12-09-2002 06:21:43

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Re: Re: Re: Grades of Diesel in reply to John Ne., 12-08-2002 20:20:42

Here in MA diesel runs 3-5 cents higher than gas. I think that it has to do with the plethora of consumers now. Which is to say that in the '60s there weren't as many big trucks as there are now. Add to that that ALL tractors (pretty much) take diesel and there are lots of diesel cars and pickups, and you can see that the demand is higher now.

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John Humphrey Morocco IN.

12-08-2002 05:28:11

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Re: Re: Grades of Diesel in reply to Slowpoke, 12-07-2002 20:28:47

When I came out of the Navy in `65, my family had two fuel delivery trucks. Our supplyer sold a product that was interchangable. #1 fuel oil was what you got when you asked for Kero.,#1 Del, or #1 fuel oil. This is the we delivered to construction sites for the Cats and pumps. Had several customers 275 gallon tanks in their garage to fill their MB Diesel car. This was also used by customers with pot or wick type burners,the forerunner of todays K1 heater.

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T_Bone

12-07-2002 22:46:29

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Re: Re: Grades of Diesel in reply to Slowpoke, 12-07-2002 20:28:47

Shhhh Slowpoke your showing our age with gas wars of $.15gal, $.19gal reg price. Geezs that don't even pay for the tax in todays world !

#2D is standard diesel with #1D being winterized diesel(thinned with kerosene).

T_Bone

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Phil Munson

12-08-2002 19:33:28

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Re: Re: Re: Grades of Diesel in reply to T_Bone, 12-07-2002 22:46:29

When premium #2 hit $.249/gal, I will never forget. My dad, a heart patient, had THE BIG ONE!!This was before OPEC. He called up the supplier and unloaded on them. After he got done explaining what reprehensible crooks they were, he told them to get their tanks and pumps, and told us kids if the nonsense didn't stop, horses were a real possibility. I never liked horses much; glad he got over it.

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earlschieb

12-08-2002 10:59:18

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Re: Re: Re: Grades of Diesel in reply to T_Bone, 12-07-2002 22:46:29

I remember buying gas for 11 cents a gallon, with 16 cents a gallon being high priced gas.

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