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Willie

11-25-2002 12:38:56




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New house and will need to have a watersofner. Looking to add a whole house filter at point of entry to the basment. I don't think we have sand or dirt and such in the line just looking to keep gunk out. We are on a well. Any input on type, brand, likes, dislikes, on these things. Thank for the help.




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Glenn(WV)

11-26-2002 20:23:26




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 Re: Whole house water Filter in reply to Willie, 11-25-2002 12:38:56  
Sears sells whole-house filters. The assembly runs something like $35. They're clear, so you can see when the media needs changed. You will be stunned at the amount of sand/dirt it will knock out. The filtering media runs about $7-$10/cartridge for the polypropylene sediment filters. I used to work at a joint that was the first tap off of a large water storage tank. We got ALL the sediment, and those filters removed every bit of it. They would turn from snow white to chocolate brown in one month from all the dirt, but the dirt never got past them. I changed them every month. Easy to change the filters, too.

Money well spent IMHO.

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Tom

11-26-2002 17:46:21




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 Re: Whole house water Filter in reply to Willie, 11-25-2002 12:38:56  
Something I forgot to mention below, tee off your outside sill cocks before the filter, you don't need to filter water for watering the grass, livestock, or washing the car. It will save on the frequency of filter changes.



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Ben in KY

11-26-2002 06:14:00




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 Re: Whole house water Filter in reply to Willie, 11-25-2002 12:38:56  
I use an omni filter, works good. There is an assortment of filter types available for it at Lowes, Wall mart, etc. Mount it well and leave room for a bucket to fit under it when changing the cartridge if it is inside. I also have a valve on the inlet and outlet of the filter for ease of cartridge replacement. I have my outside faucets tapped off before the filter. Also remember if you are on well or cistern water, you need to change the filter about every couple of months. With no chlorine in the water the filter WILL become a bacteria haven. The little buggers like to grow in the debris that collects in the filter. The bacteria will probably not be as much of a problem if mounted after a softener as I figure the softener kills a bunch of the little buggers.

Ben

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Hal/WA

11-25-2002 17:46:56




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 Re: Whole house water Filter in reply to Willie, 11-25-2002 12:38:56  
I installed my whole house filter a short distance past the main shut off valve on the line that comes into the house. It filters every drop of water used in the house and keeps me from having problems with sand in the faucet areators and such. It also keeps sand from possibly clogging something in the water softener.

There are a number of filters available. I used the Omni and have had no trouble with it. I use one of the coarser cartridges in it that looks like a roll of string. This catches sand and any scale from the piping, but does not clog up. I tried a couple of very fine filter cartridges and they almost quit flowing after a month.

If your kitchen sink has been plumbed to have softened water only, it is a good idea to run a separate line and faucet to supply water that has not gone through the softener, as it is not a good idea to drink softened water due to the added sodium. I have a second double filter system with the very fine filters on this line and it makes much better drinking water.

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Jim WI

11-27-2002 09:51:56




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 Re: Re: Whole house water Filter in reply to Hal/WA, 11-25-2002 17:46:56  
Another possibility is to install a reverse-osmosis system for the drinking water at the kitchen sink. That's what I have (wife can't stand the taste of our water without it).



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Scott Green

11-25-2002 17:04:15




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 Re: Whole house water Filter in reply to Willie, 11-25-2002 12:38:56  
Hi Willie , Yes , I can give you some input on whole house filters. If you are on a well , and install a whole house filter , you will find more particles of sand , silt , etc. than you ever thought was in your water. Especialy in a new well. I just had a new modular home brought in last year. New well also. I put my filter before the holding tank/preasure switch. I would recommend putting the whole house filter after the holding tank/preasure switch. Reason being; as your filter collects sediments , your pump will work harder pushing the water through the filter , taking longer to build up preasure in the tank , and shutting off. When I get the time , I'm going to switch mine around. As far as brand name of whole house water filter , any good quality brand should work fine.

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ray

11-25-2002 18:08:38




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 Re: Re: Whole house water Filter in reply to Scott Green, 11-25-2002 17:04:15  
Mine is installed after the softener, that way I don't waste my filter on hose bibs. My sink unsoftened drinking water is on a separate charcoal filter. I am on well water
-ray



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T_Bone

11-25-2002 16:47:56




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 Re: Whole house water Filter in reply to Willie, 11-25-2002 12:38:56  
Hi Wille,

Looking thru one of my old books a ways back and they had a sand filter that was very simple made. You had to back flush once a year to keep it clean. Alot of pools used them during that time period.

T_Bone



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T_Bone

11-26-2002 10:20:13




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 Re: Re: Whole house water Filter in reply to T_Bone, 11-25-2002 16:47:56  
Something else to consider. The body needs minerals form water and alot of the carbon and other types of filters remove the good minerals that we need to keep our body healthy. If you see your family getting sick more often and with sickness that your past family memebers didn't have, the first thing I would do is remove the drinking water filters.

Salt is the number one most benefitical mineral that we need.

T_Bone

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JerePa

11-25-2002 16:43:03




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 Re: Whole house water Filter in reply to Willie, 11-25-2002 12:38:56  
I have the same set up-well with a softner. Your local True Value or Lowes would have a filter with replaceable catridge. I replace mine every 4-6 months. It would be about 1 1/4" or 1 1/2" pipe size. JERE



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Tom

11-25-2002 16:42:20




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 Re: Whole house water Filter in reply to Willie, 11-25-2002 12:38:56  
Simple basic filter should do then. Install a ball valve on each side of it so you will be able to remove the whole filter assy. if needed. Have it mounted well so unscrewing the filter bowl won't break the pipes. Have a bypass so you can still have water if you remove the filter for any reason.



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dumolebob

11-26-2002 08:34:39




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 Re: Re: Whole house water Filter in reply to Tom, 11-25-2002 16:42:20  
now the bypass in case your not using the filter is a really smart, but inexpensive idea!



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Scott Green

11-25-2002 17:08:12




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 Re: Re: Whole house water Filter in reply to Tom, 11-25-2002 16:42:20  
Yes Tom , I had done just as you mentioned. Willi should do the same.



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Dusty

11-26-2002 05:24:45




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 Re: Re: Re: Whole house water Filter in reply to Scott Green, 11-25-2002 17:08:12  
If you use potassium chloride insead of sodium chloride you will not have the salt to contend with and it is easier on the enviroment.

Dusty



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Jerry S- watch out for too much potassium

11-26-2002 13:00:53




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Whole house water Filter in reply to Dusty, 11-26-2002 05:24:45  
Potassium salts are not as easy for your kindeys to deal with as sodium salts. Too much of anything is bad for you but it takes less potassium to cause problems versus sodium. I am not a big fan of the potassium salts personally.



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Ray,IN

11-26-2002 18:37:07




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Whole house water Filter in reply to Jerry S- watch out for too much potassium, 11-26-2002 13:00:53  
My wife has blood pressure problems, and the specialist said to stop using softener salt and instead use potassium chloride. The sodium chloride was contradicting her BP medicine. He said the potassium chloride will not hurt anything as it is a water soluible mineral and the human body will expell what it doesn't need. With a softener, I don't need an ordinary sediment filter.



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