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Can an old-fashined Gambrel Roof two story barn be built out of steel?

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DSB

11-19-2002 13:01:14




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Does anyone know of available plans for building the old style Gambrel Roof 2 story barns out of steel? I want to keep the historical look around here, but I feel like I can improve interior spans, bottom floor head room, and overall strength by building with steel. Any ideas?




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Jim N

11-20-2002 19:17:38




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 Re: Can an old-fashined Gambrel Roof two story barn be built out of steel? in reply to DSB, 11-19-2002 13:01:14  
I built a 30X50 gambrel 4 years ago using this company's hardware and hemlock 6X6's. If I were to do it again, I wood use steel 'I' beam instead.
They specialize in do it your self materials and you are able to erect the frames without a crane.

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Clear spans are nice!!!



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paul

11-19-2002 21:45:42




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 Re: Can an old-fashined Gambrel Roof two story barn be built out of steel? in reply to DSB, 11-19-2002 13:01:14  
Depends if you want to put livestock in the barn. New steel will rust & drip a lot quicker / worse than the old good wood/concrete barns.

--->Paul



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JoeK

11-19-2002 16:51:01




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 Re: Can an old-fashined Gambrel Roof two story barn be built out of steel? in reply to DSB, 11-19-2002 13:01:14  
I would suspect one could be built,however the cost of doing so would seem to outweigh the potential benefits.Our old barn was 36x70 with a later 36x35'addition,gambrel roofed with 8ft stone/concrete lower walls,approx 10-12' kneewalls and about 32'peak.Ground flooor had appx 7+ feet of headroom.You have to keep mind that the king beams and posts running the length of the barn were there to support the many tons of hay,(and in ours,grain,huge water tank)stored above in the loft/mow,not to provide structural supports for the building itself.I have seen several old barns,no longer used for overhead hay storage where several posts have been removed to better utilize the space.Check with pole barn companies,I know several offer 2 story gambrel type buildings.Down the road aways here there is one that has bottom as multi-car garage and loft is finished/divided into his/her workshops for hobbies.Its is apprx 20x34 I would guess.

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Ryan

11-20-2002 05:23:08




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 Re: Re: Can an old-fashined Gambrel Roof two story barn be built out of steel? in reply to JoeK, 11-19-2002 16:51:01  
That building you described sounds exactly like what I want to do with my grandparents old barn. Do you by chance know which company put it up or could you find out?



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Steven M

11-19-2002 16:32:41




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 Re: Can an old-fashined Gambrel Roof two story barn be built out of steel? in reply to DSB, 11-19-2002 13:01:14  

Sure they can!
Go to
www.barnplans.com/index.html



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DSB

11-20-2002 07:11:16




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 Re: Re: Can an old-fashined Gambrel Roof two story barn be built out of steel? in reply to Steven M, 11-19-2002 16:32:41  
I sure like those barns, but didn't see any with steel superstructures. I need help like what size and weight I-beam to use for such and such span, and what type of material to use to replicate the gambrel truss design. I thought that rectangle tubing could be used instead of 2X12's for roof trusses. I just want to avoid learning everything the hard way on this project like how most of my projects go! Thanks for all of your help.

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JoeK

11-20-2002 09:41:37




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 Re: Re: Re: Can an old-fashined Gambrel Roof two story barn be built out of steel? in reply to DSB, 11-20-2002 07:11:16  
Thats what I meant by cost vs benefits.Steel I beams and tubing etc make for a strong but very expensive frame and in my opinion wou;d be overkill in strength.Then the labor considerations,every piece cut,drilled,bolted or rivited/welded..then as to attaching sheathing/roofing....just seems to me that for maybe 5-6 times the cost,you still are not gaining much.Depending on what use your "barn" is for and such it does not seem a cost effective way to build.Hundred of thousands of conventional wood barns have stood the test of time.Steel frame buildings have never seemed to catch on as "styled" barns,but do well as arch or quonset type warehouses/storage buildings.In livestock applications materials must constantly deal with moisture condensation,manure acids in atmosphere,this may be why wood is material of choice due to its ability to"breathe",where steel would begin and continue to corrode.Back to your original query,Yes,technically it could be done but is it feasible,also would it meet building codes?A "good"idea building plan can often be shot down or made impossible by codes/regulations.

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