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larry

10-18-2002 03:48:28




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Hi, thinking about painting or coating my shop floor, when my floor was poured there was no vapor barrier put down so i do get some moisture. Has anyone had any experience with the epoxy type coatings? What do you guys use or had any experience with? Thanks




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Bruce

10-19-2002 00:46:36




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 Re: shop floor in reply to larry, 10-18-2002 03:48:28  

Be careful when selecting and using epoxy paints on concrete floors. The epoxies have excellent chemical and wear resistance and are great for shop floors.

However, the epoxy paints are non-porous, and will not allow moisture or water vapor which comes up through the slab to escape. Usually, this will cause the epoxy to lose its bond and lift in spots. Depending on the drainage under the slab, your concerns may be justified.

If you do go with an epoxy (or other coating), follow the maufacturer's directions for prep. Some coatings require the slab to be etched with muriatic acid to neutralize the alkalis present in the concrete. Other coatings recommend NOT to etch with acid.

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larry

10-21-2002 16:28:33




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 Re: Re: shop floor in reply to Bruce, 10-19-2002 00:46:36  
Well i dont guess i will go with the epoxy, i had already put concrete sealer on it but every time it gets a little humid my floor gets pretty wet. Dont know what else to try. Thanks Guys



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Terry in IN

10-25-2002 20:19:12




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 Re: Re: Re: shop floor in reply to larry, 10-21-2002 16:28:33  
Sounds like your moisture may not necessarily be coming up through concrete. I have years of experience in aircraft hangers. Each and every spring, when we shut down the heating system, the coolness of the ground cools down the floor. Upon opening the hanger doors in the morningc, the otherwise dry floors become soaked. This is due to the condensation of the warm moist air onto the cold slab. No surface material short of some kind of insulation will change this. As summer ensues, it becomes less of a problem as the ground warms up. Keeping the doors closed to keep out the moist air will help, though this is not always possible. The ideal way is to pour your floor with in the floor heat, if only to use during the warm-up. We currently have a waste-oil furnace, and keep the heat on longer, speeding up the warm-up of the floor. The trade off here is that we give up the coolness we enjoy in the early summer at least till 10:00 AM with the doors closed. Having warmed the floor up some time earlier in the season than we used to compromises this benefit some. A simple test would be to lay a rubber floor mat on the floor. When you notice moisture, lift the mat and see if the floor is wet underneath (darker under the mat), or the moisture in on the top of the mat (floor will be lighter under the mat). Oh, I have one hanger coated with very expensive epoxy, and the other coated with a cheaper polyurethane coating. The epoxy shines and will land you on your butt when it "sweats". It also agonizes me when a carless person nicks or gouges it. It will be difficlult to repair due to it's shine and durability. The polyurethane stands abuse reasonably, and will be much easier to repair. Less shine, less slippery, less critical if spot repaired. It still looks nice for a shop.

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Rod MI

10-18-2002 07:43:51




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 Re: shop floor in reply to larry, 10-18-2002 03:48:28  
like F14 seed it's very good stuff but at work where there has been a press and lots of oil socked concrete it starts to peal up sow I think 90% of the job is your prop work there are different grades of epoxy paint light, medium, heavy duty (my favorite is the heavy dotty stuff much thicker and sum only get about 50sq ft of coverage I wish I new the brand we use at work but I don�t now you mite wont to get sum plastic beads sow its not as slippery when you spill something on it Home Depot sells the plastic beads in there paint department we clean are epoxy floors with a floor scrubber with a scrubbing pad and ammonia and water and cleans up very well and no damage to the floor on the good stuff but the cheaper stuff it will dull the finish sow you have to after cleaning and dry mix 1/3 wax with 2/3 water and spray a little on the floor then scrub it in to the floor useing a polishing pad and then you will get a mirror finish on it let use now how this project works out

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F14

10-18-2002 05:10:33




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 Re: shop floor in reply to larry, 10-18-2002 03:48:28  
We put epoxy paint on the floors of the engine bays in our firehouses. With proper prep and application, it's dang near bulletproof. We've been VERY pleased. Don't know if our slabs have a vapor barrier under them or not, but we have zero moisture problems, and we live in snow/ice/road salt country.



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Rod MI

10-18-2002 07:46:36




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 Re: Re: shop floor in reply to F14, 10-18-2002 05:10:33  
F14 do you now what brand thay used I would like to now?



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F14

10-19-2002 04:27:05




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 Re: Re: Re: shop floor in reply to Rod MI, 10-18-2002 07:46:36  
I don't, but I'll see if I can find out for you.



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Thanks F14

10-19-2002 13:26:33




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: shop floor in reply to F14, 10-19-2002 04:27:05  
Thanks F14



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