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Bill (NJ)

09-27-2002 13:17:19




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I am looking into geting a 40 x 60 steel building and looking for any recommondations anyone might have. I have no idea what makes one better than another or what to look for in chosing one.

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Bill




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ShepFL

09-30-2002 08:42:28




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 Re: Steel buildings in reply to Bill (NJ), 09-27-2002 13:17:19  
Bill - I finished with a pre-fab steel shop. It is 30x60x14. I subcontracted the concrete work. It is 6" thick with hugh footers, fiber concrete with wire mesh reinforcement, also rebar in the footers. Overkill but according to local code since Hurricane Andrew tore up S. FL.

I added two 10'H x 12W roll up doors. I planned the door height 2' above my backhoe, and width was determined by NOT wanting to back a trailer with equipment into the shop in the dark with no assistance. I felt the extra width was cheap insurance to prevent damage.

I am currently adding a 30' lean straight off the shop roof to 10' telephone poles as outside support to maintain backhoe clearance under the lean-to. You can also see the extra 10' of slab - this is provisions for stoop in back to relax with some KY sippin' whiskey (Jim Beam Black) from time to time, fuel storage, and deer cleaning. When?? I don't know!!

Bldg is from Millenium Steel out of Tallahassee, FL. It is a kit and while functional I would strongly consider BUTLER BLDG. or similar if doing again. The kit workmanship is fine but the dwgs. SUCK and made this a much bigger PITA then needed. Total now I have about $15K tied up in the bldg. - that is slab, bldg, doors and incidental costs i.e. fill dirt, extra cables, redheads, consumables etc.

Butler Bdlgs., Steel Bldg. Systems, etc. also provide pre-fab kits but one that has majority of fittings WELDED. Then construction is MUCH easier only having to attach & connect girts and purlins. Steel Building Systems out of Ada, GA makes a one fine bldg - should I ever get another that is who I'm going with. JMHO!! Butler Bldgs. are nice but out of my price range.

If this is not an option then I would strongly consider a pole barn. But for me price was about the same. Selling point for me was no longer having to wallow around in the mud, no termite dmg, minimal weather deterioration (FL = Flat, HOT, Muggy & Buggy)! I had to save a few yrs. to get this bldg. but in the end it has proven to be a worthwhile investment.

Other improvements done this summer -
a) added bollards to either side of entrance door to protect from inadvertent trailer hits in the dark.
b) Installing plastic encased insultion in the roof. This is the Owens-Corning compressed rolls - they are working quite well. c) when concrete guys come to pour new house drive I plan on adding 12x12 wash pad to shop front.

CONSIDER THIS for additional height -
add a cinder block stem wall about 3' tall.
Picis have not updated in nearly 3 months since new home construction.

You can drop me an email if you would like.

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Gene Davis

09-28-2002 18:49:57




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 Re: Steel buildings in reply to Bill (NJ), 09-27-2002 13:17:19  
Very pleased with the Butler building I had erected in '96, I built the pad, they did the final grading and complete turn key job from there including insulation,for $22.7K, 2-12x12 doors,(they give me drag thru capability), roof vent, 2 walk in doors w/ windows. They have a well engineered building, and a very knowledgable sales rep and dealer in this area, have nothing but good words for Butler Bldg system for my part,although they are not the cheapest one around, the quality has seemed to justify the cost to me. The doors need to be at least 12'wide if at all possible,to make backing trailers,etc. in much easier, and also when you want to get the extra wide junk you just accquired in the bldg. Doors are often too narrow, but never heard of one they thought was too wide!! Paneling the inside walls with 1/2" osb, or plywood over the insulation is a very good thing to do,gives a place to put electrical boxes, shelves, work benches, and also keeps the insulation from getting destroyed. I painted my OSB walls with a white enamel to make them more light reflective. I live in central Ga. and it takes very little to heat this building most of the winter, and is reasonably cool inside in the summer time. Gene Davis

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Neal in NM

09-28-2002 14:05:55




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 Re: Steel buildings in reply to Bill (NJ), 09-27-2002 13:17:19  
I put up a quonset style steel building a few years ago. I will never use that company again! I didn't have the money to buy the insulation package at the time of purchase. After about a year I called them up and was told that they no longer provide insulation. I have contacted every steel building manufacture to find no help. Whatever building you decide on make sure you can insulate it! Neal

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Chris C.

09-27-2002 20:37:29




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 Re: Steel buildings in reply to Bill (NJ), 09-27-2002 13:17:19  
Bill, I recently completed a 30 x 60 steel building from Miracle Truss. Total cost was around $20,000 with a monolithic slab floor and 2 14' sliding doors. They have a pretty good website @ miracle truss.com



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Dennis Benson

09-27-2002 20:09:26




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 Re: Steel buildings in reply to Bill (NJ), 09-27-2002 13:17:19  
I'm building my own on a small city lot. It is a pole building 24 by 24 and 15 feet tall. If you don't have a lot of room, like mine, placement is important. The year before I built it I drove stakes where I planned to put the corners to make sure I could get to everything, since I have 12 feet on the side of the house that I have to drive past. It has a 12 foot door on the front, and one on the back, so I can drive through and park in back. The neighbors are especially interested because I'm disabled and use either crutches or a wheelchair. I'm on the second year of a 3 year job.

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JerePa

09-27-2002 16:44:23




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 Re: Steel buildings in reply to Bill (NJ), 09-27-2002 13:17:19  
Preperation of the ground to start. Is the location prone to water drain off? Put in an undergroung drain pipe around the edges so no moisture comes up throught the concrete. Lay plastic down before concreting. Make sure the door opening is wide enough & high enough to get in what ever you are putting in with extra room. Windows or skylite are nice to let in sunlite & cross ventilation. Soffet & ridgevent are handy also. Make sure the steel (painted?) has at least 25 yr. gaurentee. Get references from the builder of other buildings he did. Are the people satisfied? Just a few things I wish I would have known before I built. Build it as big as you can. You'll be glad you did.

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Richard Fazio

09-27-2002 16:30:42




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 Re: Steel buildings in reply to Bill (NJ), 09-27-2002 13:17:19  
Bill, I put up a Morton building last year. Are you planning on building it yourself or having it put up? The Morton building is totally completed by Morton. They do a great job and have a high quality building. Mine is 48 X 60 X 16 high. It is basically a pole barn with steel panels on the outside and roof. Mine was about $32,000.00. I poured my own cement inside, 60 yards and it's great. you can see their buildings here. Link

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