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bob

09-25-2002 18:52:22




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i am about to start looking for a sandblaster that wont get a lot of use,mainly to clean up wheels and rims,i have never been around one much,any one have any advice as to what size i should be looking for?thanks, bob




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D.L.

10-08-2002 21:18:58




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 Re: sandblaster in reply to bob, 09-25-2002 18:52:22  
Sandblasters come in three basic types: pressurized tank, siphon feed, and enclosed cabinets. Pressurized tank versions generally cost a little more (although not unreasonable) and do provide higher blast grit velocities, but are much more prone to moisture issues as some in this thread have experienced.

The siphon feed types are basically nothing more than an air gun with a siphon feed hose that sucks the grit frm a container and mixes it with the air stream as it exits the gun. Not as "powerful" as a pressurized tank model, but certainly adequate for occasional and general use.

Enclosed cabinet types are intended for small parts and are economical in the sense the blasting grit is recycled through the system instead of lost as is the case for open-air blasting.

Also there are several types of blasting media that you can use. Glass beads, carbide (normally used in a closed cabinet types), and sand. As mentioned, harbor freight sells several types and models of blasters. For occasional and general use, particularly smaller parts or areas, I would recommend the $29.95 portable siphon model they sell. The grit container holds up to 30 pounds of media and it is an extremely simple system. Heavy moisture can still cause clogs, but these are not nearly as prone to moisture issues as the pressurized tank types.

A relatively inexpensive moisture filter on your air supply outfeed will eliminate the majority of problems when blasting.

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william

09-27-2002 08:07:48




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 Re: sandblaster in reply to bob, 09-25-2002 18:52:22  
I would like some info on sandblasting.



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jenn

09-27-2002 08:02:35




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 Re: sandblaster in reply to bob, 09-25-2002 18:52:22  
does anyone have good saftey tips for sandblasting? I need to do a report for AG class.



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Captain.n/e,Mo.

09-26-2002 16:09:22




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 Re: sandblaster in reply to bob, 09-25-2002 18:52:22  
I'd have to agree with Chopper,I have a cheap little thing with a hose that yopu stick in a bag of sand and it works great we blasted an aluminum boat ,took most of the day but it did the job.I think mine came from JC Whitney but it looks just like the one at wally-mart



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MO

09-26-2002 06:42:56




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 Re: sandblaster in reply to bob, 09-25-2002 18:52:22  
Just got a catalog from TIP in the mail. They have a kit with all the stuff you need to make your own, includes air hose, siphon hose, pickup tube, and gun, for $79. They have plans that show you how to build the cabinet out of 2 sheets of plywood. I can't remember if the plans are included in the kit, but if not, they are $7.50. I think the cabinet is 24" by 32". Just another option to think about.

MO

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Chopper

09-26-2002 04:16:31




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 Re: sandblaster in reply to bob, 09-25-2002 18:52:22  
Bob,
Some time ago I purchased the #38375 blaster from Harbor Freight. However, unlike Don, I TRIED to use mine. Had PLENTY of PSI & CFM. My sand was dry & sifted (Black Beauty Extra Fine).

It kept getting clogged up and I tried everything I could think of, including asking about it in this forum.

I think the longest it ran was a minute or so before clogging again & again & again. It was one of the most aggrevating experiences I ever had. I finally wound up putting (5) 7mm Mag rounds through it which gave me great satisfaction.

I then purchased a Campbell Hussfeld hand held gun @ a Wal-Mart store. It was about $12 bucks. It has a hose that you put inside the medium and hook it up the air supply and away you go. Now, don't get me wrong, I wouldn't want to do any big jobs with it, but it is sure fine for small stuff.

I sent you a URL @ CH with details of this item. It's cheap and worth a try.

Chopper

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LarryG

09-30-2002 04:23:32




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 Re: Re: sandblaster in reply to Chopper, 09-26-2002 04:16:31  
I have the 40 pound pressurized blaster from HF. It has been more frustration than anything else - most of it was my own fault, though. I used fine sand from Home Depot, but it isn't graded 100% and it only takes one piece too large and you are shutting down and taking things apart. Strain whatever you are using through a screen - I found a piece of window screen is fine. I was using it yesterday on a front tire rim until the hose blew off and I shut down for the day. I got more run time out of it yesterday than I ever have before, though. But, I'm still going to get a blasting cabinet from TP - I can't recover the sand, and I'm doing it in the driveway. With a cabinet and a vacumn for the dust, I can do it in the garage in any weather. I did use my fresh air hood for the first time and is that great! You have to learn to not hold your breath when a cloud of dust rolls back at you.

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Don LC

09-25-2002 23:53:00




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 Re: sandblaster in reply to bob, 09-25-2002 18:52:22  
A couple guys was talking about how well they liked the 110# Abrasive Blaster, Item number 38375-3hwh @ $139.99 in a Harbor freight catalog....I bought one, based on there experence,but havent used it yet....I have seen this item in there other catalogs for 179.99 and on sale for $159.99..... The $139.99 price is good until nov.1..... Also free shipping until nov.1..... Call toll free 1-800-423-2567 ....You can see it @ harborfreight.com ,but probaly not on sale on the web.....They also have a 40# one item # 34202-orth, on sale for #89.99 down from $129.99.....I hope this helps...Don

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Chopper

09-26-2002 03:58:56




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 Re: Re: sandblaster in reply to Don LC, 09-25-2002 23:53:00  
Don,
THIS IS A DUPLICATE MESSAGE I SENT TO BOB. PLEASE READ THE PS @ THE END..

Some time ago I purchased the #38375 blaster from Harbor Freight. However, unlike Don, I TRIED to use mine. Had PLENTY of PSI & CFM. My sand was dry & sifted (Black Beauty Extra Fine).

It kept getting clogged up and I tried everything I could think of, including asking about it in this forum.

I think the longest it ran was a minute or so before clogging again & again & again. It was one of the most aggrevating experiences I ever had. I finally wound up putting (5) 7mm Mag rounds through it which gave me great satisfaction.

I then purchased a Campbell Hussfeld hand held gun @ a Wal-Mart store. It was about $12 bucks. It has a hose that you put inside the medium and hook it up the air supply and away you go. Now, don't get me wrong, I wouldn't want to do any big jobs with it, but it is sure fine for small stuff.

If you wnat further info on this item contact Campbell Hussfeld. It's cheap and worth a try.

Chopper

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Don,
If you read this I would sure like to talk to your friends that had such great success with their Harbor Freight units. Maybe they could tell me what I was doing wrong..... ..

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JMS/MN

09-26-2002 11:34:48




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 Re: Re: Re: sandblaster in reply to Chopper, 09-26-2002 03:58:56  
I built my own from an old water tank, hydraulic hose, hardware store valves and commercial tip. Biggest headache was clogging- reason is ANY bit of moisture in the sand makes the unit clog. Commercial quality air filter system is too expensive, cheap ones don't work. Last tractor I had custom done cost me $80, first one $200. Different people, high priced one is out of business. Both did a fine job, I wouldn't mess with my own unit for occasional use.

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Don LC

09-26-2002 06:22:23




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 Re: Re: Re: sandblaster in reply to Chopper, 09-26-2002 03:58:56  
Chopper,
I have been readind these forms for the last 6 mo.Some were in the early stages, around May or June...I though I might have saved the information, but I can't find it....I don't know these guys but they talked about this blaster on this page...one said he had blasted 3 tractors with his and was very satisfied...another said he used bank run sand @ $12 a ton....another comment was,you had to use the larger size nozzle...he had bought a, 3/32" carbide tip....worked great....I am trying to find one for mine...I have not used mine, but it came highly recomended from guys on this page..... Don

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Chopper

09-27-2002 15:30:48




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: sandblaster in reply to Don LC , 09-26-2002 06:22:23  
Don,
As I said in my original message, I tried EVERYTHIG, I or anyone that I spoke with could think of. NOTHING worked. Big Nozzle, Sifted & Bone Dry Sand, different valve settings, different pressures & CFM's and even tried blasting on days when the humidity was very low. I even took the unit apart to examine it. I couldn't find anything that was obviously wrong.

Maybe the one I had was a lemon, but that doesn't make scense as its a very simple unit.

If you want to communicate outside this forum list your e-mail address in your next response and I will get in touch with you.

Chopper

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Burrhead

09-26-2002 07:49:48




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: sandblaster in reply to Don LC , 09-26-2002 06:22:23  
I don't know what series # is but I bought the 40lbs unit from Harbor. So far so good.

I screen play sand for my use and have'nt any problems.



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Don LC

09-28-2002 05:33:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: sandblaster in reply to Burrhead, 09-26-2002 07:49:48  
The 40# and the 110# is the same unit,except for the size of the tank.....Like I said earler I have not tried mine yet.....It will be next spring now before I try it.....I sure would like to find the 3/32" carbide nozzle for it.....



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VaTom

09-28-2002 06:10:17




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: sandblaster in reply to Don LC, 09-28-2002 05:33:17  
You should find it works well. Mine does. The nozzle shutoff is a short-lived piece of junk, however. I replaced mine once before I gave up. TIP has a good one but I have no problem doing without. I've gone through 40 ceramic tips and a ton or few of sand. Dry air + dry sand = no problems. Mine's mostly been used for cleaning up used barjoists, up to 30'.



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vern

10-18-2002 07:43:29




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: sandblaster in reply to VaTom, 09-28-2002 06:10:17  
I have a small Sears siphon type. I use silica sand from lumber yard and work mostly in a big cardboard box laid on side so I sweep up, screen and re-use most of the sand. My problem is I apparently don't have a big enough compressor - 3 HP. It does a good job for a little while and then have to wait for pressure to build up. Is there any way to make this one more efficient?



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Dennis

09-27-2002 12:06:25




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 Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: sandblaster in reply to Burrhead, 09-26-2002 07:49:48  
Don't matter what kind of sandblasting rig you got you have to keep your air dry. Also use a good dry material made just for sandblasters.



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