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Fixing a trailer

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ChuckR

08-20-2002 10:41:46

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I just bought a trailer at a local auction and as I expected before buying it, it needs some serious work to do the job. I have been hauling a Case VAC locally to shows and events with a trailer that is just too light to be safe. Also just have a new H Farmall (next project) that needs hauling a long distance. This trailer eventually will be to do both jobs.

The trailer needs some serious structural welding repairs to the brackets that mount the springs. Trailer weighs about 1700 lb as best I can guess from new ones of similar stature. Two 5200 lb axles, 18 ft length, and pretty heavy steel frame. Looks like original axels pulled off or close to it and someone tried to repair with some pretty ugly and inadequate welds. Everything looks amazingly straight. I want to turn the trailer over, clean it up real good and strengthen all of the spring mounting welds. Considering out of position welds, which I am not very good at, but really want to examine closely and make it strong. Will also probably add another cross brace while I'm at it. Can't figure out how to turn it over without crushing the fenders, since I don't have a large hoist. Seems like many of you have already solved this puzzle. Thanks for any ideas.

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JMS/MN

08-22-2002 17:12:27

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Re: Fixing a trailer - how to turn over in reply to ChuckR, 08-20-2002 10:41:46

Have two friends with loader tractors? Hook front and rear, raise, rotate. One friend? Raise tongue and block- high!. (tie to sturdy tree- 8' trailer, 5' high) Hook loader to center of rear end. Raise and rotate.

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ChuckR

08-23-2002 09:42:56

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Re: Re: Fixing a trailer - how to turn over in reply to JMS/MN, 08-22-2002 17:12:27

Thanks for the reply. I have been thinking about doing the same thing with two engine hoists, but haven't figured out how to hook the back so that it would rotate. Chain around the tongue would take care of the front. Seems like the pivot point needs to be under the trailer bed so that the axels and wheels aren't so far below the pivot point (out of balance) that I knock the whole deal off of the hoists when I try to rotate it. I suppose that if I welded a couple of loops onto a heavy pipe I could attach it to bottom of the bed with chains around the bed, and use the pipe extending behind the trailer as the rear pivot point. What do you think?

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ChuckR

08-22-2002 15:28:42

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Re: Fixing a trailer - how to turn over in reply to ChuckR, 08-20-2002 10:41:46

Thanks guys. Glad to hear that I am not alone with this project. Good luck with all of yours.
Chuck.

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Farmered

08-22-2002 06:42:57

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Re: Fixing a trailer - how to turn over in reply to ChuckR, 08-20-2002 10:41:46

This is not quite the same situation but I righted a travel trailer that had gone over in a 110 mph wind. Just pile 3 or four straw bales where the high wheel will land. Hook your tow strap to the spring hanger and pull with pickup or tractor. It will land nice and easy on the bales then cut the strings and pull the straw out.
Farmered

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Rick from Paso

08-20-2002 20:59:45

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Re: Fixing a trailer - how to turn over in reply to ChuckR, 08-20-2002 10:41:46

I am in the process of doing the very same thing. I turned my trailer over by jacking up one side and resting the trailer frame at about 1 ft from the front and rear on two stacks of railroad ties. The ties lifted the one side of the trailer off the ground just a couple of inches. The stacks of ties are pointed out perpendicular to the side of the trailer so that when the trailer is flipped it will rest on the ties. Then between the two stacks of ties, at the balance point of the trailer, I brought my tractor up with the loader bucket up over the trailer and chained the far side up to the bucket. I lifted the bucket up, backed a little, lifted, backed and viola! Flipped it over on the two stacks of ties. This is a flatbed trailer. Good luck!

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Dennis Benson

08-20-2002 20:24:42

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Re: Fixing a trailer - how to turn over in reply to ChuckR, 08-20-2002 10:41:46

Thanks for bringing it up, I'm going to have the same problem because I'm building a heavy trailer with 2 axles to haul tractors. After thinking of it you can use the tongue as an axle and raise it enough to put it on something sturdy and tall enough to rotate the trailer and have the fenders clear. then using some heavy enough clamps you can clamp something to extend from the center of the back of the trailer and raise it the same distance as the front. something that seems easy to find to set it on is a stack of pallets that you can usually find for free behind businesses, and they are happy to get rid of them, unless they are using them.

They do have welding rod for overhead welding, but I don't like a shower of sparks.

And if it gets too hot you can spin it and use for a fan.

Dennis Benson

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Rich

08-20-2002 11:42:50

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Re: Fixing a trailer - how to turn over in reply to ChuckR, 08-20-2002 10:41:46

Do you have a tall stout tree that you could back it up to and hoist the tongue up. Wouldn't be over but would get some working room underneeth. Next thing I think you could roll it side ways using jack stands or some cribbing stacked up using rail road ties or some land scape timbers. Just some thoughts. Maybe not the safest but you know the farmer in us all that makes use of what's available at the time.

Rich

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Rich

08-20-2002 11:42:50

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