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ChrisB(Ohio)

08-19-2002 08:48:00




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Hello all,
I have found a craftsman lathe for sale for 400 dollars. What should I look for when I look at it? And, what should I offer him? And can I get replacement parts? How bug are they?
Thanks,
Chris




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JMAC

08-20-2002 19:50:50




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 Re: Craftsman Lathes? in reply to ChrisB(Ohio), 08-19-2002 08:48:00  
CHRIS, CHECK THE PLAY IN THE CROSS-SLIDE(THE LARGER OF THE TWO DIALS)SET THE DIAL AT ZERO AND THEN SLOWLY TURN IT BACKWARDS, WHEN YOU WILL FEEL IT GRAB THEN READ THE DIAL AS TO HOW MANY THOUSANDS IT MOVED, LESS IS BETTER,DO THE SAME WITH THE COMPOUND SLIDE. IF IT IS AN OLD ATLAS MADE LATHE YOU CAN STILL GET SOME PARTS FOR THEM FROM ATLAS.IF IT DOESN'T AT LEAST HAVE A COUPLE OF LATHE CHUCKS(3&4 JAW) THEN IT'S NOT SUCH A BARGAIN, THE MORE TOOLING THE BETTER. TO CHECK THE CAPACITY OF THE LATE MEASURE FROM THE CENTER OF THE HEADSTOCK TO THE TOP OF THE WAYS,THIS DIMENSION TIMES TWO IS THE TURNING CAPACITY,BUT ON THAT OLD LATHE DON'T THINK YOU CAN TURN A LARGE CAPACITY PART WITHOUT TROUBLE. I SOLD A 12" CRAFTSMAN LAST YEAR FOR THE SAME AMOUNT BUT I CLEANED IT UP AND IT WAS IN GOOD SHAPE AND HAD LOTS OF TOOLING WITH IT. HOME SHOP MACHINIST IS AN EXCELLENT SOURCE FOR ARTICLES AND MACHINES AND PARTS FOR SALE.THEY HAVE A WEB SITE. GOOD LUCK, AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY THE FIRST ONE THAT COMES ALONG.

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JF

08-20-2002 19:43:01




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 Re: Craftsman Lathes? in reply to ChrisB(Ohio), 08-19-2002 08:48:00  
Every Craftsman power tool I ever bought was not worth half of what i paid.All contractor grade.Do yourself a favor and use that money for a downpayment on a delta.



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Tom

08-22-2002 18:04:32




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 Re: Re: Craftsman Lathes? in reply to JF, 08-20-2002 19:43:01  
I think the old lathes were made before Craftsman went to **++. And they are not Carftsman, but Atlas, a machine tool maker, that Sears bought and put their name on. I haven't ever noticed any complaints on the machinist boards about Atlas lathes in general.



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John

08-20-2002 12:40:52




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 Re: Craftsman Lathes? in reply to ChrisB(Ohio), 08-19-2002 08:48:00  
I bought mine with all the gearing, chucks and some cutting tools. The only thing missing was the motor. It is an old 6" and cost $75.00



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mj

08-20-2002 08:21:38




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 Re: Craftsman Lathes? in reply to ChrisB(Ohio), 08-19-2002 08:48:00  
I've got 2 of them; paid $800 for the newer one (power crossfeed) and 200 for the older one. Both came with quite a bit of tooling and benchs but needed a lot of TLC! The ways were worn on the newer one so I stripped it and took it to a local machine shop and had them flycut it to "bring it back in". Cost me $50 and worth every penny! I use them quite a lot for making replacement parts and for protoype work. If you get some tooling and the machine is a tapered bearing headstock then I'd say it's easily worth the 4 bills. The link will take you to a very informative page done by a guy who's made and adapted some really useful tooling for a "Chinese Mini Lathe" and shows the kind of stuff that can be done regardless of the machines' age, size or country of origin.

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pickup

07-21-2005 11:26:39




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 Re: Re: Craftsman Lathes? in reply to mj, 08-20-2002 08:21:38  
How do I determine the size of the lathe I have?
Atlas/Craftsman



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John in MA

08-20-2002 08:12:09




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 Re: Craftsman Lathes? in reply to ChrisB(Ohio), 08-19-2002 08:48:00  
You didn't mention size, tooling, condition, and model. All are important. Sears had metalworking lathes made for them from the '30s into the '70s by several different companies.

One thing to remember. If it's a "109" model, it was made by the now-defunct AA Corp. The parts supply is pretty much limited to used on eBay. I wouldn't pay $400 for one of those. They are good little lathes, however.

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allisguy

08-20-2002 07:27:31




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 Re: Craftsman Lathes? in reply to ChrisB(Ohio), 08-19-2002 08:48:00  
Chris, Look at overall appearance and check for wear on bed wayes. Usually they are worn more near the chuck as most work is done there. Check spindle bearings and lead screws on all axis for wear. You didn't say if it was a 6" or 10" so I can't comment on price. If it comes mounted on a nice stand then it is worth a little more too.
Good luck, allisguy



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Jerry A.

08-20-2002 06:16:32




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 Re: Craftsman Lathes? in reply to ChrisB(Ohio), 08-19-2002 08:48:00  
You might also trying a post on the Home Machinist Board. You might find someone with the same model lathe (if you know the model).

Link

Good luck.



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Tom

08-19-2002 17:26:49




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 Re: Craftsman Lathes? in reply to ChrisB(Ohio), 08-19-2002 08:48:00  
It is probably an Atlas. Look around on the web for machine tool bullitin boards like this one, there may bo one for Craftsman/Atlas, and ther are a few for machine tools in general. You will find information there. Four hundred sounds reasonable. Check the cross feed screws for play, an indication of the amount of use the lathe has had. Tighten the carriage lock on the ways just enough to feel resistance when the carriage is near the chuck and then gently move the carriage towards the tailstock, if the ways are worn it will get tighter as you get to less wear. None of this makes it worthless, just tells you you are getting a machine with some wear. Check the headstock bearings for play too. If it isn't a quick change , make sure it has a set of change gears or know if they are missing, you will need them. Does it come with chucks, 3 and 4 jaw, tool holders, tool bits, tailstock chuck, centers-dead and live? All tooling you will need and if it isn't there you will spend as much as the cost of the lathe getting it. Not that you need it all at once though. You can add as you go.

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ChrisB(Ohio)

08-19-2002 21:02:19




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 Re: Re: Craftsman Lathes? in reply to Tom, 08-19-2002 17:26:49  
Thanks alot tom. I have no idea what it comes with. I have been meaning to call the guy. When I call I will tell you.
Thanks,
Chris B.



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