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Welding Galvanized Metal

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Gary W

08-16-2002 05:23:16




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Is there a way to weld galvanized metal? Either to another piece of galv. or to mild steel. I just have an AC stick welder.

Thanks, Gary




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BlueLite

08-19-2002 14:47:48




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 Re: Welding Galvanized Metal in reply to Gary W, 08-16-2002 05:23:16  
I have a 230 AC buzzbox with 40 to 230 amps (Lincoln). I use copper clad carbon pencils (ArcAir) you can get from US Alloys of Texas. You will need a holder for the pencils. You can get one from Lincoln or maybe Alloys. You bring the ends of 2 pencils togeather to strike an arc then spread the arc out to 3/8in or so.

You apply this arc to the work for a couple of seconds, then feed in your standard bronze brazing rod. It's sort of like soldering but with high heat. Brazing rod is cheaper in 4ft lengths so avoid the everything stores. Carbon pencils come in lengths of 12in and widths of 1/4 to 1/2in or more. Use 5/16 or 3/8 with 40Amps. Bundle of 50 runs 35$ or so and for me will last my lifetime.

If you can get your amperage lower than 40, you can use 1/16 or 3/32 standard rod, but my eyesight isn't good enough anymore to run a bead this small.

Don't knock the brazing, I've tested these joints with a hammer, and it makes a tough seam.
Just make sure that the bronze that you melt on finishes out to at least the thickness of the Galv metal.

Hope this helps. I did the floor pans and back area of a jeep like this. Makes nice solid job.

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Curt

08-17-2002 22:02:52




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 Re: Welding Galvanized Metal in reply to Gary W, 08-16-2002 05:23:16  
I have welden galvanized steel before. did it with the big garage door open and stayed away from the galvanized smoke



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ErnieD

08-17-2002 14:26:03




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 Re: Welding Galvanized Metal in reply to Gary W, 08-16-2002 05:23:16  
The reason for drinking the milk is to bind the heavy metal, zinc to the calcium and lay it down in the bone. It is much better to grind the zinc off, use ventilation and proper respiratory protection. Look in yellow pages for safety equipment and buy a respirator for welding fumes. The supplier should be able to tell/train you or where you can get the training. You will need to be fit tested and perform regular maintenance (replace the cartridges)and clean the air valves.

Later in life when you start losing bone mass your dosage of heavy metals will come back. Your body has no way of excreting heavy metals. Lastly, don't weld cadmium plate either, its the most toxic.

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Dennis Benson

08-16-2002 18:57:20




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 Re: Welding Galvanized Metal in reply to Gary W, 08-16-2002 05:23:16  
Drinking milk can't be overemphasized. Drink at least a glass of milk afterward. If you don't it will feel like the worst case of the flu you ever had, all your joints will ache. I worked on a temporary job once as a welder's helper building conveyors and storage racks in a freezer in a meat packing plant, and even as a helper it was necesary to drink the milk.

As for the welder, they were using stick welders. If your welding store is competent, just ask them which kind of welding rod to use, and whether you will be welding horizontal, vertical, or overhead, and temperature. Grinding the galvanized off should not be necessary, and welding back over the weld may be necessary. We built storage racks with tracks on them to fill the center of a freezer 50 feet wide by 250 feet long along with all the conveyors and cat walks on 2 levels and across the ends, with no grinding.

Drink milk afterward, figure out how you will have the part positioned, ask the welding supply store which welding rod you will need, and ask if there are any techniques you will need to know.

Dennis Benson

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Tom

08-16-2002 18:42:22




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 Re: Welding Galvanized Metal in reply to Gary W, 08-16-2002 05:23:16  
The other advise is good, all I can add is that I tend to use a little more heat to burn the galvanized off faster.



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Fred OH

08-16-2002 11:17:50




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 Re: Welding Galvanized Metal in reply to Gary W, 08-16-2002 05:23:16  
Always drink a container of white milk (8 to 16 oz.)to counteract the effects of fumes before welding galvanized metal. Stay upwind of it or have a fan blowing fumes away from you...Do it on a windy day...outside. Probably 6011 rod has the most penetration for a transformer type welder like you have. Keep stectators, pets and children away...serious business! You get that funny sweet taste in your mouth and it's too late...you can get very sick from this!!! Go to weld sites and read up on it. L8R....Fred OH

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Jerry B

08-16-2002 05:57:46




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 Re: Welding Galvanized Metal in reply to Gary W, 08-16-2002 05:23:16  
Galvanized steel will weld just fine if you grind off the coating prior to welding. You DON'T have to grind it off but you get a little better results if you do and a lot less smoke.

When welding galvanized steel, work in an open area with plenty of wind to remove the fumes before they make it to your helmet. Breathing the zinc fumes might be the last thing you do.



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