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CASEPOWER

08-13-2002 07:57:38




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Hey, I am trying to find out what these are?? They say "Allin Liquid Eye" I was guess sight glasses for a steam boiler, but I am not for sure????




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Jim in Michigan

08-15-2002 06:20:45




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 Re: Help identify picture in reply to CASEPOWER, 08-13-2002 07:57:38  
I do refrigeration,, thats a common sight gauge for use on bigger units,, like collers in stores and such,,, Jim



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Ninh Hoa

08-13-2002 14:57:47




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 Re: Help identify picture in reply to CASEPOWER, 08-13-2002 07:57:38  
Found this through a search. Hope the link posts.



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G-MAN

08-14-2002 15:54:18




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 Re: Re: Help identify picture in reply to Ninh Hoa, 08-13-2002 14:57:47  
Casepower, I'm going with you in agreeing with Ninh. I have no experience with commercial or residential refrigeration, but considerable experience with automotive systems, and the 134A systems use quick couplers on the gauge ports for charging and pressure checking, as well as for evacuating the system, and I've yet to see one leak. It's especially hard to argue with the fact that your units have "Allin Liquid Eye" on them and the site Ninh linked to is for "Allin Liquid Eyes". It would seem to me that you do have refrigerant sight glasses there, after all.

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CASEPOWER

08-13-2002 17:04:30




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 Re: Re: Help identify picture in reply to Ninh Hoa, 08-13-2002 14:57:47  
Well, I guess you got this one right. I was hoping something old that I might could sell. Thanks for your help.. Jonathan



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T_Bone

08-13-2002 18:26:50




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 Re: Re: Re: Help identify picture in reply to CASEPOWER, 08-13-2002 17:04:30  
Hi casepower,

That is not what you have.

A refrigeration sight glass as shown in the link is a double male flare that goes in-line after the condensor coil but before the expansion valve in series as I was talking about in my other post. These are very common on larger tonage systems.

Yours is different as it either has double female or caped on one end as I can't tell from the picture on the right side but appears to be caped.

We can not use quick disconects in refrigeration as they leak either on pressure but will diffently leak on suction. We have to evacuate the system every now and again and while under vaccum a quick disconect will leak more than when having pressure.

Theres no since in having a removable sight glass as a sight glass has one purpose and that is to tell if liquid refrigerant is present in that part of the system.

T_Bone

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Mac

08-13-2002 08:54:12




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 Re: Help identify picture in reply to CASEPOWER, 08-13-2002 07:57:38  
This is not a boiler water sight glass. Picture seems to be of glass used for refrigerant. When glass is full of refrigerant, the small white line magnifies. Makes it easy to see flow. Example would be on the older models of vehicles that have a refrigerant sight glass under hood, close to the radiator. I am sure you have seen these.



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Mark Kw

08-13-2002 10:02:01




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 Re: Re: Help identify picture in reply to Mac, 08-13-2002 08:54:12  
I'll go along with Mac and add that these could also be for nearly any type of liquid filled and or pressurized system. Looks to be copper flare fittings used on the left side of the pic which would indicate whatever they came from used relativley low or no pressure. I have seen similar devices used in hydraulic pilot lines, the white line is on a spring loaded disc that would move toward either end showing pressure or vacuum applied to the circuit. Similar devices also used as oil level indicators on gear boxes and bearing housings too.

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T_Bone

08-13-2002 13:16:54




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 Re: Re: Re: Help identify picture in reply to Mark Kw, 08-13-2002 10:02:01  
There not used in refrigerant systems as they have quick disconects and there would be no use for quick disconects in a refrigerant system.

We use the refrigerant sight glass to see bubbles in the high pressure side of the refrigeration cycle (bubbles not wanted here) therefor they need to be installed in the flow loop.

Copper flares are used for pressure and hold well up into the 500psi range as many of refrigerant systems use this method without problems.

The sight glass appears to be plumbed as a dead end system leading me to think as Mark or Casepower on checking for existing pressure flow in many different places in a low pressure system. Quick disconnects do not adapt well to a vaccum system.

T_Bone

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