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Chuck, WA

07-29-2002 13:35:54




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I'm near the point of putting the metal siding on my new barn. I've never owned a cordless drill or screwdriver, believing them to be whimpy, gutless, and operation times to recharge too short. It's time to think about going cordless with the good excuse being the the barn metal.

The obvius answer to my skepticism is to spend a lot of money and buy the "Cadillac." However, there is a limit to that approach.

My knowledge is pretty limited and consists of an article or two from which I gather that the higher voltage, the more power, the better. That's about it for my knowledge on the subject.

What brand and model would you all suggest for that kind of use and for ongoing use - non-industrial, personal home/farm use. I don't mind spending money for good equipment, but neither do I care to overspend - too much Scotch in my Hungarian/Russian heritage. :) That leads to the second question, given a brand and model, where will I find the best price?

Thanks for your suggestions!

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Roger

07-30-2002 12:31:45




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 Re: Cordless screwdriver recommendation in reply to Chuck, WA, 07-29-2002 13:35:54  
Can't go wrong with Makita. I've owned several
Makita drill/drivers over the years and have never
been disappointed. I currently have a 14.4v and
three 9.6v (one being a RA) and have been/am
satisfied. I also have a Milwaukee and I'd
recommend that brand, too. Fine Homebuilding
magazine frequently does tool comparisons and
these two brands are consistently at or near the
top. You might be able to find one of these
comparisons on FHB's website? I haven't tried
other brands of cordless drills but I work with
others who do and most of the major brands are
very similar in basic performance & reliability.
Porter Cable looks like a good one, too.

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ShepFL

07-30-2002 09:22:49




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 Re: Cordless screwdriver recommendation in reply to Chuck, WA, 07-29-2002 13:35:54  
Chuck -
My comment may not qualify but what the hay!
For my metal shop (30x60x14) I used a standard 110v sheet rock screw gun and my portable generator. I bought 2 of them from the local pawn shop for $65 for the pair. I got a Black and Decker model and also Dewalt.

The B&D gets heavy at end of day due to weight being in the chuck area. The Dewalt was very well balanced. Both have adjustable rpm and chuck. I finished the shop and sold the B&D for $50, kept the Dewalt.

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dave#1

07-30-2002 04:43:46




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 Re: Cordless screwdriver recommendation in reply to Chuck, WA, 07-29-2002 13:35:54  
This is a pic of my 30x50x10 pole barn, and I have since added a 50' lean too as well

I built it useing my Makita modle #6095, 9.6 volt drill, This is the cordless drill Makita has made forever, it's cheap in cost and high in quality, batteries charge fast and last, it's light in whieght and has a good "Feel" when useing it.

You can buy this drill with 2 batteries,charger,carrying case and sometimes even a flash light.

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later,dave

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Scott Green

07-30-2002 02:08:47




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 Re: Cordless screwdriver recommendation in reply to Chuck, WA, 07-29-2002 13:35:54  
Chuck , I use cordless drills every day for a living. Buy a Panasonic. They are the best. You can also buy reconditioned ones through Amazon.com---tools and hardware. You want the one with 3/8" chuck 12V. Small and light. Same power as other brands bigger models.



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Scott Green

07-30-2002 02:08:18




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 Re: Cordless screwdriver recommendation in reply to Chuck, WA, 07-29-2002 13:35:54  
Chuck , I use cordless drills every day for a living. Buy a Panasonic. They are the best. You can also buy reconditioned ones through Amazon.com---tools and hardware. You want the one with 3/8" chuck 12V. Small and light. Same power as other brands bigger models.



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Chuck, WA

07-29-2002 21:16:48




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 Re: Cordless screwdriver recommendation in reply to Chuck, WA, 07-29-2002 13:35:54  
Thanks y'all! Looks like lots of fairly consistent advice that's not going to take a second mortgage to buy. Guess it's time to do some shopping and see what's out there. I suspect I'll take a look at Costco first and see if they have anything since I sure like the "no-questions asked" return policy - sure gives me some confort knowing that if I get a lemon, I can return it with no hassle. Then, I'll check into the reconditioned ones since we have a Harbor Freight in town, but then will also look at Milwaukee and Dewalt elsewhere. I've started looking at specs and am starting to get a feel for what's available. Again...Thanks!

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M R

07-29-2002 20:30:00




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 Re: Cordless screwdriver recommendation in reply to Chuck, WA, 07-29-2002 13:35:54  
I have a 14.4 DeWalt 1/2" chuck With hammer drill. I'v been real happy with it. I just finished the first half of my 35 X 28 shop roof and the battery still has planty of power left. My first Dewalt was a 9.6 that I had for 10 years it still works but the charger got wet and burned up. Thats one reason for the new shop roof.

Question on steel roofing. Is it better to put the screws on the ridges or the flat part?

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Scott Green

07-30-2002 17:38:37




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 Re: Re: Cordless screwdriver recommendation in reply to M R, 07-29-2002 20:30:00  
MR , remember this when it comes to metal roofing. Nails in the highs. Screws in the flats. Both need washers. side walls go in the flats.



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T_Bone

07-30-2002 17:19:53




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 Re: Re: Cordless screwdriver recommendation in reply to M R, 07-29-2002 20:30:00  
Hi MR,

always on the high rib with the neophrene washers and and roofing felt vapor barrier under the sheet for condensastion control.

T_Bone



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Put screws with neoprene washers in the flats

07-30-2002 01:51:15




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 Re: Re: Cordless screwdriver recommendation in reply to M R, 07-29-2002 20:30:00  
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Charley

07-29-2002 19:05:19




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 Re: Cordless screwdriver recommendation in reply to Chuck, WA, 07-29-2002 13:35:54  
I've got a 14.4 volt craftsman than has done well. Best advice I got when I purchased it was to get one with a battery recharge time of not more than an hour. Good advice!



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GTMAN

07-29-2002 18:39:16




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 Re: Cordless screwdriver recommendation in reply to Chuck, WA, 07-29-2002 13:35:54  
sears has a sale on this week for combo 19.2v drills. 19.2v drill, 2.7v cordless screwdriver, 19.2v worklight, 2 batts, 1 charger for 19.2v batts, 1 charger for screwdriver, all for only 89.99

they also have a deal with drill circular saw & light w/ 2 batts & charger for 143.99



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thurlow

07-29-2002 17:34:56




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 Re: Cordless screwdriver recommendation in reply to Chuck, WA, 07-29-2002 13:35:54  
Can't knock any of the major brands, though I haven't tried them all. Have had 9.6 V Dewalt; 12 V Sears; both still good though batteries have failed (5 plus years of use). Currently using 18 V Dewalt with hammer mode. Factory reconditioned at about $150 from Harbor Freight. It is a "HOSS". For about 2 weeks been drilling 5/8" holes thru 12" timbers building pier. Haven't counted holes drilled on one charge, but it is a bunch. Lots of torque; it will twist your arm if you don't have a good grip.

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John in MA

07-29-2002 16:20:12




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 Re: Cordless screwdriver recommendation in reply to Chuck, WA, 07-29-2002 13:35:54  
For siding screws, you'll want a 12V or higher. You won't need the extra power, but an 18V drill's battery will last a lot longer between charges. They are, however, heavy. Also, 24V drills are far too heavy for this kind of job.

Milwaukee makes the best. Porter-Cable, Makita, Bosch, and DeWalt are all on the same level as far as I'm concerned. Makita's quality's slipped in the last few years. You really can't go wrong with any of them. There are also smaller high-quality brands like Panasonic and Metabo, but dealer support is limited and they are expensive.

Harbor Freight and Amazon.com both sell several brands of reconditioned tools. Lots of DeWalt for pretty good prices. I buy used off eBay, but your milage may vary going that route.

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Chuck, WA

07-29-2002 15:36:59




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 Re: Cordless screwdriver recommendation in reply to Chuck, WA, 07-29-2002 13:35:54  
After looking around online, looks like what I really want is a cordless drill/driver, probably greater than 12 volts, but not 24 volts for cost reasons. Porter-Cable, Makita, DeWalt, others?



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F14...What a co-inky-dink...

07-29-2002 18:12:14




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 Re: Re: Cordless screwdriver recommendation in reply to Chuck, WA, 07-29-2002 15:36:59  
I built a barn with a metal roof last year, and used it as an excuse to replace my old, abused Makita 9.6 with a bent chuck [dropped it on a cement floor ":^( ]

I bought a 14.4 DeWalt, VSR with clutch and an extra battery. Drove a potfull of screws with it roofing my barn, and was well pleased. The clutch is important so you don't over-drive the screws, distort the washer and cause leaks.

Battery recycle time was fine, by the time I flattened one driving screws, the other was charged and ready to go. Doesn't hurt that I also have a DeWalt 4" trim saw that uses the same batteries and charger.

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T_Bone

07-29-2002 16:17:27




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 Re: Re: Cordless screwdriver recommendation in reply to Chuck, WA, 07-29-2002 15:36:59  
Hi chuck,

When it comes to cordless drill motors theres only two choices in my opinion, Makita and Milwaukee. The 18v seam to be very popular but will get heavy by the end of the day. Whatever you do get two battery's and the quick charger.

My son just bought a new 1/2" 18v Milwuakee and it lives upto the name. Well made and well balanced with a good pistol grip. Extra battery, faster charger and carryig case, $228. Where I can't tell you until tomorrow as he's working. Using it with a drill motor hanger then I don't see a problem with the weight.

I had a Makita 7.3v 3/8" for years. Lighter than the 18v models and good torque. I could drive about 2hrs of screws before changing battery's, metal to metal drill head or tek screws.

If your driving metal to metal then no worry on a 7.3v. Metal to wood maybe an 1hr per battery depending on the size of screw diameter.

Don't skimp on the screw quality. The neophrene washer lets the skin pull when the wind is blowing and is a better seal. Without the washer the screw will pull thru the skin, no if ands or butts, just give it time.

T_Bone

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Thomas Rodger

07-29-2002 20:04:00




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 Re: Re: Re: Cordless screwdriver recommendation in reply to T_Bone, 07-29-2002 16:17:27  
I vote for the Dewalt 14.4 volt. I rebuilt a house, built a new, larger deck and gazebo area, a 1/2 car shed for the outdoor equipment and replaced the batteries once. If you get the saw get the larger one, not the 4 inch blade, but the drill heavier than the 14.4 is going to be miserable by the end of the day. Go ahead and buy an extra battery when you get the drill. PS- on the house we did the roof decking, completly gutted and replaced the kitchen and floor underlayerment (sink is on opposite side now)replaced all windows and cut some new ones, tile cement board underlayerment, took out all panel and sheetrocked everything. I used the 14.4 drill and the 14.4 saw unless I was mitering trim or ripping on the tablesaw. Of course I've left out a ton of things we did but it was obviously construction duty work.

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