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Red Dave

07-26-2002 06:48:37




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I'm working on a project for a friend who wants to run an elctric motor off of a battery.
It's a 36 volt, 176 amp motor according to the nameplate. Making it run is no problem, but he wants it to run continuously for an hour or more at a time. Car batteries won't supply that kind of power, for that long, without warping the plates inside. I'm thinking that a deep-cycle battery like might be used in a forklift or golf cart might work.

Does anybody know where I can find information on that type of battery? Can you reccomend a supplier? Anybody ever try anything like this?

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Neil

07-30-2002 13:12:59




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 Re: Deep-Cycle Battery Question in reply to Red Dave, 07-26-2002 06:48:37  
Isn't anyone curious what he is doing with it?
I certainly want to know!

On the application side, you might not need all that battery if you are not loading the motor to capacity.



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Bus Driver

07-30-2002 04:34:58




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 Re: Deep-Cycle Battery Question in reply to Red Dave, 07-26-2002 06:48:37  
The post does not mention if the motor is to be used near regular power sources. This motor most likely would function well with an AC power supply. If so, examine the possibility of supplying 36 volts AC to the motor. If remote from AC power, then battery recharging will be more difficult. Also consider if replacing the motor might be the lowest cost solution.



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doug stockman

07-27-2002 04:30:33




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 Re: Deep-Cycle Battery Question in reply to Red Dave, 07-26-2002 06:48:37  
Greetings:

Your friend will need at least 12 @ 220 amphr 6 volt golf card batteries to run that motor for more than an hour. A 175 amp motor that runs for an hour uses 175 amp hrs (if run at full load). Generally a battery should not be discharged more than 80% of its capacity or battery life will be shortened. It is even better to not discharge the battery more than 50-60% if you want to get the full life from the batteries. The deeper the discharge, the less discharge-charge cycles you will get before the batteries need replacement. A typical 220 amphr 6 volt battery costs about $60-$70, so your friend will spend around $700-$800 on batteries. That cost will allow him to get a good 1.5 hrs before a recharge is needed. Interstate batteries carry these golf cart deep cycle cells, or as someone else mentioned, Trojan makes good batteries. Remember that you get what you pay for.

I would recommend against gell cells unless the application requires significant motion such as tippng. I do not think they have more capacity than lead-acid batteries and they are more easily damaged by overcharging.

Another common battery is called an L-16 or LV-16. They are 6 volts at 350 amphrs. They can last a bit longer than the golf cart batteries, but are much larger and cost more.

A used fork lift battery might be a good option if you can find one in decent shape. Let me know if you live near Rochesster, NY and I can put you in touch with the area's battery guru who might have what you are looking for. BTW, my entire house is run off of 2 used forklift batteries. Each battery weighs 3,500 pounds. They are 48 volt packs and each have 850 amphr capacity. New they cost around $4,000, but I got each for about $1,000. A wind turbine and solar panels keep my batteries charged.

Best of luck.

Doug Stockman
Penfield, NY

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MarkB

07-26-2002 17:53:33




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 Re: Deep-Cycle Battery Question in reply to Red Dave, 07-26-2002 06:48:37  
That's about an eight horsepower motor! What on earth are you doing with it?

Trolling motor batteries are deep cycle, and you can buy them just about anywhere.



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Country Bill

07-26-2002 17:42:22




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 Re: Deep-Cycle Battery Question in reply to Red Dave, 07-26-2002 06:48:37  
Got mine at Sam's.



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Kevin

07-26-2002 14:58:36




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 Re: Deep-Cycle Battery Question in reply to Red Dave, 07-26-2002 06:48:37  
I would lean towards the 6v golf cart batteries. My dads golf cart will do 36 holes off one charge, so we know they can handle the load.



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Junkman

07-26-2002 11:32:01




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 Re: Deep-Cycle Battery Question in reply to Red Dave, 07-26-2002 06:48:37  
Red Dave, We just bought two 6 volt golf cart batteries to replace the 12 volt in my dad's boat. Do yourself a favor and check into "gel cell" batteries. I believe they hold a charge longer and also charge faster. We got ours from Harris batteries in Northeast Ohio. If you need more info, call 330-874-0205. I hope this helps



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bill b va

07-26-2002 07:14:04




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 Re: Deep-Cycle Battery Question in reply to Red Dave, 07-26-2002 06:48:37  

ok... you are going to put three 12 volt batteies in series to get 36 volt now all you have to do is parell them with some more batteries to get the capicity needed . you will then have a 36 volt battery with what ever capacity you want to make it ..... . i think if you price a forklift battery and check the weight you will back off of that idea in a hurry.



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Two Bit

07-26-2002 07:09:04




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 Re: Deep-Cycle Battery Question in reply to Red Dave, 07-26-2002 06:48:37  
Red Dave,
Deep cycle batteries are definately what is needed for that application. 6 volt deep cycle batteries wired in series can supply 6,12,18,24,.... volts.
and 6 volt batteries have thicker plates than 12 volt so will last longer. I have an RV with a battery bank and 6 volt are the way to go.

Look at this websight for Trojan. they are the best deep cycle battery out there:

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