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Blue point vs. snapon

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rednekelmo

07-08-2002 15:28:47




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other than the grade of finish is there any difference between the plue point and the snapon wrenches?specifecly in tempering,strengh or tolerances? I'm upgrading my tools and was just curious. it would be nice if I could find an article where somone or group tested and destroyes the major makers tools to see how they actually hold up.




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Trucker

07-14-2002 15:51:56




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 Re: blue point vs. snapon in reply to rednekelmo, 07-08-2002 15:28:47  
If you use your tools to make a living with them,you buy snap on once and they last a long time,if you just work on your own stuff,craftsman is good,or there are lots of different ones out there.Sometimes it doesnt hurt to have Mac,or blue point,or SK wrenches because in some places they might work better than a snap on.A good set of snap on with long handles up to about 1 inch is good to have.Then for the big stuff I would get Craftsman.Then I think I would go with Mack on a set of standard wrenches because they dont hurt my hands as bad.It takes a while to get used to snap on wrenches,they hurt your fingers,if you have a bolt that your standard mack wont take out,you can use the long pattern snap on on it,plus the snap on will take a bolt out that another wrench rounds off.Blue point stuff is good,but if it was me,I would just as soon have craftsman.Sockets might be a different story.I have broken a lot of craftsman sockets,but not very many wrenches.I have broken snap on and mac sockets too,but they take more than craftsman.The main thing is the man selling them to you,if he stands behind them or not,where I live,I like the mac man better,he has been around for 20 years,the snap on man changes every 2 or 3 it seems like.

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Jim in Michigan

07-09-2002 21:17:37




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 Re: blue point vs. snapon in reply to rednekelmo, 07-08-2002 15:28:47  
I have some Mac, some Blackhawk and some Snapon,, only problem I have ever had with snapon is that some of the wrenches have really thin handles and when u put pressure on it they are like knife blades... I have had excellent luck with Mac. I have a Mac 1/2 breaker bar that after having used it for 15 years and my dad having used it for 20 years before that we finally broke the end off it,, I found a number for Mac and they sent me a replacement end free,,,, I think it really depends on how you use the tools... if its a once in a while thing get craftsman, if its all the time get Snapon, Blackhawk or Mac./././... My opinion....Jim

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John Ne.

07-09-2002 10:15:20




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 Re: blue point vs. snapon in reply to rednekelmo, 07-08-2002 15:28:47  
I've got everything in my box, plenty of snap-on, mac,etc. Blue point has been the lower priced kicker tool for snapon for at least 50 years. Wrenches and sockets too. Mostly they are only available in sets, last I knew. If one has a broken blue point, most snapon reps will replace with a snapon. Be advised too that snapon makes an industrial finish tool line, black like parkerizing, at a considerable savings from the high polished chrome. Way back they also offered another low priced line called Par-X,, have a few of those sockets. John in Nebr.

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G-MAN

07-11-2002 17:34:11




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 Re: Re: blue point vs. snapon in reply to John Ne., 07-09-2002 10:15:20  
Good point about the industrial finish tools, Jim. I have chrome wrenches up to 1 3/8, and then I have 1 7/16 and 1 1/2 in the industrial finish. I like the feel of chrome better in the wrenches I use all the time, but for the ones you only use once a week or so, there's really no sense in paying twice the money. I've had pretty much every tool I own loaded up in a service truck since about the middle of April, and I don't think I'll be out of it until after harvest, so my tools are taking a beating. I've got a Snap-On heavy-duty road chest and that thing is built like a tank. I don't think I can get any more tools in it and it has to weigh somewhere in the neighborhood of 450 lbs, but I lift it in and out of the truck with an overhead hoist and a lifting strap through the handles - they don't give a bit. I just don't think you can beat Snap-Ons quality.

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G-MAN

07-08-2002 17:01:23




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 Re: blue point vs. snapon in reply to rednekelmo, 07-08-2002 15:28:47  
I'm a JD tech and own Snap-on tools almost exclusively, with a little Mac thrown in for good measure. At one time, I think the Blue-Point tools were items that Snap-on didn't make themselves. The BP air-tools were usually cheaper and didn't offer the same warranty. Snap-on would buy items like snap-ring pliers from companies like K-D and market them under the B-P name. I wasn't aware that they were making B-P wrenches, sockets and other hand tools, but maybe they are to compete with Mac and their Blackhawk tools. A lot of people say that Snap-on tools are overpriced and not worth the money, but most of them aren't the guys that are using their tools all day, every day like I use mine. There is a difference. Mac and Craftsman both make quality tools, but I am so used to the feel of Snap-on in my hands that I'm hooked. Lots of companies have the lifetime warranties, but if you're having to wait to have things replaced constantly, or have to drive 50 miles to a Sears store, it doesn't much matter. I have very rarely broken any of my Snap-on tools, and then usually only through abuse of the tool. You can test and break any tool, but you have to take into consideration if you're ever going to be in that situation in real life. I don't mind paying more for Snap-on, because I know they'll be there long-term and won't lose much value. I was a little upset when Mac tried to re-incorporate out of the company to save on their taxes. Why should us hard working guys spend our taxed income buying their tools if they don't want to pay taxes here too? Just my two cents and a little rant.

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Dr. Evil

07-09-2002 13:56:44




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 Re: Re: blue point vs. snapon in reply to G-MAN, 07-08-2002 17:01:23  
HEY G-MAN! I think there is a tremendous difference in the way tools are made... SNAP-ON finds a way to make the BEST DARN tool They possibly can..., then price it for what it costs to make it... Everyone else sets a price limit and makes the best tool for that price. And you get what You pay for. Snap-On does buy a fair amount of their tools... Century used to make their welders... cut why someone would want something besides a Miller, Lincoln, or Hobart is beyond Me. Sears BUYS ALL their tools... Personally, I've had very poor luck with Any/All Craftsman power tools... Craftsman hand tools are O-K... seems as they honor the No Questions Asked warranty better now than 10-20 yrs ago.... and Yes, I live about 6-7 miles from a big Sears store.... I can NEVER find the Snap-On truck Guy!

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DON LC

07-08-2002 19:39:53




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 Re: Re: blue point vs. snapon in reply to G-MAN, 07-08-2002 17:01:23  
If you are going to make your living with them ,I would buy Snapon, if you are not, even Sears is OK...I didn't (retired) make my living with hand tools,but I have mostly Snapon.....



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